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From: Bill Leonhardt <leonhardt_at_bnldag.ags.bnl.gov>
subject: [Paddlewise] D-Rings or ???
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 11:44:37 -0400
Dear List,

Please forgive me if I've asked this question before.  I'm getting forgetful.

Recent talk of kayak rolling reminded me that I have a concern with the
packing of gear.  I have a boat with lots of storage ability, but I haven't
tried paddling with much of a load thus far.  It seems to me that, when
you're packing your boat with gear (camping, Canadian rocks, etc.), you
would want to secure the load with bungies so that it doesn't shift during
a roll or when trying to empty the boat of water.

So the question is, other than wedging things, how do you secure things in
your hatch compartments from shifting around?

I have considered attaching d-ring pads to the inside with epoxy and then
using bungies and line.  Commercially available d-rings with a pad are a
bit costly, though.  Perhaps someone has found a good way of making these
and securing them to the inside of their hull.  And, perhaps, some of you
have even better ideas.  I'd like to hear them.

As always, thanks for all the replys.

Bill Leonhardt
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From: wildwater <wildoats_at_ionet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] D-Rings or ???
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 10:54:04 -0500
> So the question is, other than wedging things, how do you secure things in
> your hatch compartments from shifting around?

Personally, I use air bladders on top of the load so I can keep the cg low.  I
just blow them up once I have everything loaded and nothing moves.  It also adds
buoyancy.

Alice

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From: <dldecker_at_mediaone.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] D-Rings or ???
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:30:48 -0400
At 10:54 AM 5/8/98 -0500, wildwater wrote:
>> So the question is, other than wedging things, how do you secure things in
>> your hatch compartments from shifting around?
>
>Personally, I use air bladders on top of the load so I can keep the cg
low.  I
>just blow them up once I have everything loaded and nothing moves.  It
also adds
>buoyancy.
>
>Alice
>

I usually run out of room before I get to the kitchen sink so the load is
always packed tight.Never had a problem with extra space. When day paddling
I take a lot of stuff if I am leading a paddle and all it ever does is make
clunking sounds when I roll and have never been a problem .

Dana
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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] D-Rings or ???
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 12:12:30 -0700
Bill Leonhardt wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> Please forgive me if I've asked this question before.  I'm getting forgetful.
> 
> Recent talk of kayak rolling reminded me that I have a concern with the
> packing of gear.  I have a boat with lots of storage ability, but I haven't
> tried paddling with much of a load thus far.  It seems to me that, when
> you're packing your boat with gear (camping, Canadian rocks, etc.), you
> would want to secure the load with bungies so that it doesn't shift during
> a roll or when trying to empty the boat of water.
> 
> So the question is, other than wedging things, how do you secure things in
> your hatch compartments from shifting around?
> 
> I have considered attaching d-ring pads to the inside with epoxy and then
> using bungies and line.  Commercially available d-rings with a pad are a
> bit costly, though.  Perhaps someone has found a good way of making these
> and securing them to the inside of their hull.  And, perhaps, some of you
> have even better ideas.  I'd like to hear them.
> 
> As always, thanks for all the replys.
> 
> Bill Leonhardt

Stuff it all in and lay an airbag on top in each compartment.  Blow up
the airbag and it will press down to secure the load at the bottom of
your boat.  If your load is such that you can't get an airbag in, then
nothing is likely to shift.

ralph

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