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From: D.R. Ferron <drferron_at_bellatlantic.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kayak Storage
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 15:24:29 -0400
I'm in the process of building a house.  I'd like to try to trade the
standard automatic garage door opener that the builder includes for some
kind of  kayak storage system.

Is there a system that will allow me to store my kayak from the garage
ceiling but get it up there with a series of pulleys? I suppose I could
rig something up myself if there isn't a commercial system.

Thanks, Donna

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From: Bob Denton <gulfstream_at_flinet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Storage
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:16:39 -0400
I use a few pulleys mounted on the rafters and scuba belt material and
plastic buckles. Works well. If you want to go first cabin, use some old
sail tackle.

cya

Bob Denton

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I'm in the process of building a house.  I'd like to try to trade the
standard automatic garage door opener that the builder includes for some
kind of  kayak storage system.

Is there a system that will allow me to store my kayak from the garage
ceiling but get it up there with a series of pulleys? I suppose I could
rig something up myself if there isn't a commercial system.

Thanks, Donna

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From: Saul Kinderis <saul_at_isomedia.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Storage
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:03:51 -0700
Donna,

While I haven't seen anything commercially marketed, I made one myself for
an earlier house. I know you could find all the stuff in an easy to
use/assemble format at a sailboat shop or a hardware place that caters to
boaters. I'd envision a pulley at each end with a carbiner or other clip on
each end. The lines on the pulleys would both going to either a cleat for
tie off (and then a strap between two hooks across the middle for insurance
and to support the middle of the boat when it's just hanging) or a pulley at
each end going to a ratcheting crank of the type they use on boat trailers
or sailboats. Either one would make it easy to take on and off of the roof
rack, provided the car with the boat on top can get through the door itself.

Good luck - Saul

At 03:24 PM 6/7/98 -0400, D.R. Ferron wrote:
>I'm in the process of building a house.  I'd like to try to trade the
>standard automatic garage door opener that the builder includes for some
>kind of  kayak storage system.
>
>Is there a system that will allow me to store my kayak from the garage
>ceiling but get it up there with a series of pulleys? I suppose I could
>rig something up myself if there isn't a commercial system.
>
>Thanks, Donna
>
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>D.R. Ferron, Photographer and Writer
>drferron_at_bellatlantic.net
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From: Dana A. Dickson <danaadickson_at_unn.unisys.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Storage
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 14:18:01 -0400
I have a pulley and strap kayak storage system in my garage.  I attached
fixed pulleys to the roof trusses and moveable pulleys with a loop to
attach to the grab handles at either of the kayak.  This arrangement gives
a 2:1 mechanical advantage for the lift. When the kayak has been lifted
into position I hold it up with 1 in webbing straps with nylon buckles.  I
used 4 sixty inch straps and arranged them, 2 straps per end, they are
wrapped around the roof trusses with the buckle approximately in the middle
of the kayak. I adjust the tension on the straps so the weight is on the
straps not on the grab handles.  The straps are approximately 4 feet in
from the ends of the kayak.  The kayak is stored right side up.  I have
used this system for 3 years with a poly boat and had no problems with
deformation of the boat. If I could modify the system I would store the
kayak over a vehicle so it could be dropped into the roof rack without
lifting, unfortunately that does not work with a pickup and topper.

The material costs were no where near the cost of a garage door opener.

My materials list:
50 ft of 5/16 nylon rope, 4 pulleys, 2 eyehooks, 2 cleats for the free end
of the rope, 4 1x60 in. gear straps, some scrap 2x4s for placing pulleys
between trusses, and 8 deck screws.

Dana Dickson

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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 15:24:29 -0400
From: "D.R. Ferron" <drferron_at_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: [Paddlewise] Kayak Storage

I'm in the process of building a house.  I'd like to try to trade the
standard automatic garage door opener that the builder includes for some
kind of  kayak storage system.

Is there a system that will allow me to store my kayak from the garage
ceiling but get it up there with a series of pulleys? I suppose I could
rig something up myself if there isn't a commercial system.

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From: Larry Bliven <foxhill_at_shore.intercom.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Storage
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:57:53 -0400
use ropes and hardware if it's right for you.
an alternative method that is also very easy goes like this.

consider 
a) a garage
b) open garage door
c) car in garage
d) truck for carrying boats is in the yard, outside of garage.

i need to store a tandem canoe and solo kayak.
the canoe is used less frequently than the kayak.

the garage wall is 2x4 inch wood at 18 inch spacing.

measurements indicate that there is enough height between the car top and
the overhead garage door for the boats.

how to hang the boats... overhead door is a problem for ropes!
=====================================
i needed supports coming out from the wall.
a lite/strong/easy material = slotted angle iron...
so i attached about a 4 ft piece to the wall using lag bolts.

to hold the weight? = flat strap iron makes upwards triangle from the
slotted angle iron to the 2x4. (use bolts/nuts/washers & lag bolts)

to protect the boats from the metal? = cover angle iron with foam pipe
insulation.

to protect my head from the end of the angle iron? = old tennis balls cut
and attached to the end.

to keep the slotted angle iron from twisting/flexing = 2x4 horizontally
spans 3 of the wall 2x4's and the horizontal piece also attaches to the
angle iron. (lag bolts) 

now, just put something like an old blanket over the car roof.

=========================================
it takes 2 people to move the canoe.
kathy and i place the canoe closest to the wall.
i can get out of car and have space for my head.
========================================
the kayak is located next to the canoe (just left of center above the car),
hence it is a very *easy & fast* load/unload by 1 person!

To store kayak:
from outside yard area, shoulder carry kayak and get to the back of the
car. the bow is over the car roof. let the kayak down and slide it forward
so that it rests on the roof.

walk towards the front of car, then lift bow of kayak onto support. walk to
back of car, then lift stern onto support.

close garage door.
===================
to get the kayak for an outing:

open garage door.

stern to car roof; bow to car roof.
move to cockpit, slide the boat back and off onto my shoulder.

move the kayak to the truck. the kayak stays at a height that doesn't
stress my body...almost no lifting.
===========
i can tell how clean the hull is by how easily it slides across the
blanket.

bye bye bliven

 








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From: Marilyn Kircus <mkircus_at_academicplanet.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Storage
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:23:59 -0600
I store all my boats in a storage shed.  I too have the slings for 3 kayaks.  I have
it attached to pulleys but I seldom need to lower it as I currently only have one
each ww plastic kayak and a glass sea kayak.  I keep the bottom rack for my sea
kayak and have the loops high enough (waist high) so that I can walk the front end
into a closed loop and then just fasten the back end.  I just reverse this to
leave.  I am 5'2" and my new Mayan Seas Performa is about 55 pounds.  My Eddyline
Raven was 65 pounds.

Marilyn Kircus

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