I've been canoeing since a kid, kayaking for six years, am always out hiking, camping and x-c skiing the rest of the time. In other words, I knew better, but look at what happened ! I write this in the hopes that it may prevent a similar experience, or worse, for somebody who reads it & thinks a casual outing is, well, casual. After a wonderful day last Monday at West Point, shooting for the Discovery Channel for twelve hours the new recruits being inducted , and then picking up the film at the lab in midtown Tuesday it took two hours to get up to Ossining due to screaming t-storms and several accidents. The Saw Mill Parkway was closed for a few miles for one, must've been multiple vehicle. I might have taken this an an omen, but didn't. In between these terrific storms it was sunny, as it was when I reached my friend's studio. He was waiting for a couple to come at 6 for an appointment, so while I was at the lightbox editing the West Point film he ran up to Peekskill and brought down our kayaks. He suggested we go out on the river for an hour or so of casual drifting just to relax, so I did so at 6 thinking he'd be along soon, but as I kept paddling out into the center of the Hudson and turning around to look for him at the boat club he didn't show because his couple was an hour late. Right above my head was the dividing line. Looking at the Tappan Zee bridge to the south & east it was sun, deep blue skies and cumulo-nimbus clouds like whipped cream, just to the north it was pitch black, like a charcoal sketch from Hell. Watching the lowest level of little individual black clouds, I thought I was safe, the front was moving north and east by the look of them, the dividing line was staying right above my head. Fooled me.... I reached Teller's Point, about 2 miles out of Ossining, with 10 swans for company. The water was flat, barely rippled, the tide incoming at about 4 knots. I floated peacefully, barely paddling. When rounding the point, this is Croton Point Park which separates Croton Bay from Haverstraw Bay, the widest part of the Hudson, I saw the storm getting worse just north of me. Lightning streaks appeared north and east in what I'm guessing were 30-some miles long stretches, over Peekskill.I still thought I was safe, that it was moving north & east. It wasn't. >From the other side of the point I could barely see the town of Haverstraw across the bay, it was nearly totally obscured. The sky was a giant blanket of darkness, the dividing line that was above my head a minute ago was far to my south. I cannot describe the fury or the speed with which things changed. It was 7:30, Alan was just putting in looking desperately for me, the boat club members stood at the dock screaming at him not to go out. He did anyway, shouting back at them, "I've got to ! My buddy's out there !" He only made it 100 yards and barely got back without capsizing. Grabbing a town policeman they sped up to Croton Point and slid all over the mud and rocks looking for me in the height of the violence, but could see no sign. Meanwhile, the storm had come in like a frieght train and I was praying loud and hard for God to see me through this safely and get me back alive. A bright yellow motorboat screamed past me at full throttle running for the marina, he wasn't going to stop and see if I needed help in open water two miles from either shore with all Hell breaking loose. (That's a clear violation of law, I was later told.) I had turned tail to the wind, headed back to Ossining, but had only gone a few hundred yards when it decended on me.The skies were like a blender filled with oil, the water ran swirling in every direction, black and senseless. I knew I was in deep trouble, I knew it was only a matter of seconds before I got thrown out of the boat. The wind came in, I was told later, at 53 m.p.h., turned me perpendicular to it and I braced as long as I could, then went over. I cleared out alright, surfaced and was in suddenly in 6' breaking waves with the kayak slamming me in the head as it kept on rolling over at about one revolution per second. I knew I had to get to the windward side of the boat, but I was unable to move as the paddle leash was wrapping around my right leg while the boat continued to roll, making it tighter. I gasped for air, the boat continued to roll with each wave and my leg started to raise up, sending me below. I got clear of the leash, reached the stern and put myself at it, then quickly wrapped the stern line around my left wrist as I knew if I let go of the boat I was dead. Those 6' waves were breaking over my head, I was barely able to gulp breaths of air in on the crests, it was black as night in the troughs. I managed to stay at the stern, pushing myself up a little bit in the rising crests to ride them and breathe, kicking for my life. The rain came next, cold as ice, but the Hudson itself was warm, thankfully. If it weren't I wouldn't be here to tell you about it. I prayed and kicked, the wind howled, the lightning streaked all around me, the only relief from a darkness that had come like the turning of a switch. It was 7:40 p.m. Fortunately, the weather was pushing me back to Ossining, I could barely make out the lights of Sing Sing on the shore. Alan was by this time scrambling around Croton Point Park with the local policeman, he tells me that he felt that I was alive, probably clingling to a beach someplace, but as the hour went by and things worsened he could only think of how to make the call to my parents, what to say to tell them I was lost. I stayed at the stern, pushing it into my chest and PFD, riding it like a log on the crests, kicking all the while.After about half an hour the waves lessened to 3', the rain slowed to a halt. I tried righting the kayak, secured the paddle under the forward deck lines, bilged most of the water out, which took a lot of energy, but without a paddlefloat the possibility of re-entry was zero. All I could do was get my stomach up on the aft deck and one foot in the cockpit. Without a float and support for the other leg, when I tried to get it into the boat it rolled again. I tried three times anyway, eventually gave up on it and just swam towing the boat, or when I got tired, raised up a few inches on the stern and pushed it ahead of me. It rained again, I started to feel colder, but the wind had diminshed so the waves were less. I kept kicking and soon saw that I was indeed closer to shore, but the light was failing now as it was well after 8:30. I righted the boat, hauled myself up on the aft deck and rested, though still kicked. I had begun to shiver uncontrollably, but as soon as I got up on deck I was warmer, only my knees on down were wet. The shivering continued, but didn't worsen. I tried the whistle a number of times, but nobody was around to hear it. I felt better, I knew I'd make it out eventually, or felt that I would, so just stayed as I was and kicked for the next hour. Meanwhile, the employees at the water treatment plant in front of Sing Sing had called in to the Fire Dept., I guess they saw me go out and not return, and after an hour and a half in the water, now close enough to shore to make out buildings, I saw a flashing light moving in an arc to my north about half a mile. It headed back to the boathouse then turned south and then towards me on instruction, I was later told, from somebody at the water plant who spotted me, how, I don't know as I had no lights. They got me in their searchlight, called to me over the P.A. to raise a hand if I could hear them, which I happily did, and in a minute was getting a life ring tossed at me as I shouted to the crew that I was unhurt, just cold and tired. They lifted me aboard,lashed in the kayak and brought me back to the boat club dock. The E.M.S. crew arrived a minute later, as I was shakily setting foot on the dock. They retrieved my dry bag from the aft hatch, I changed in the ambnulance and answered questions, signed a waiver and was released. Alan was white as a sheet. We loaded the boats onto our cars, went into the club for a cup of tea for me. It turned out the guys who pulled me out were waiting for me as they're members, and they're all firemen or policemen in there. Call me Mr. Lucky, my guardian angel has waterwings, my prayers were answered. It has changed me, I can tell you, in ways I don't yet know of. Lessons learned: 1) I didn't listen to the weather forecast, which predicted exactly what came, (including the tornado in Pawling) if I had I wouldn't have gone out at all 2) no paddlefloat, which prevented re-entry once it was calm enough to do so 3) no learned and practiced roll, which I couldn't have done anyway in those conditions, but besides I 4) had no skirt 5) no strobe on my vest, it was here in the closet, safe at home 6) no flares or even a flashlight 7) no knife 8) I was in street clothes, the drysuit was also safely home in the closet. If the water were cold, I'd almost certainly have perished. 9)Tether the bilge pump in. I nearly lost it three times. 10)I was out alone. I'm still shaken. When I got home the next night I watched a Trailside episode that taped while I was gone to try to relax. It was one of sea kayaking at Gross Morn in Atlantic Canada. Looking at the shapes of the boats, even on calm seas, just scared me. I had to turn it off. The kayak is a 16' Baltic Mari 4, made in Estonia, high-volume and in fiberglass/composite. The paddle is theirs, too, a carbon-fiber one. Extrasport PFD worked well, but **only because the waist strap was cinched as tightly as I could stand it**. A mistake I think some make if they are novices who haven't actually ever been in the water in their vests is to buckle up and leave the waist straps loose, if tied at all. This will never do as the vest will ride up around your head like a chef's hat while your chin is at he surface of the water, if you're in rough seas you'll be swallowing a lot. If anybody wants to write me to talk about this, please do. 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Great trip report! So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? I know I do. I am ultra careful to do the "right thing" and have the "right stuff" but everyone thinks I'm a nut. I don't think so, well, yeah a nut but not a nut with a death wish. Can paddling alone safely ever be regarded as safe? OR, if a great white gets me will people always say "too bad, he had a knife, pfd, float plan, flares, vhf, kitchen sink etc. but he broke the rule, he went out alone". Comments? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? I know I do. > I am ultra careful to do the "right thing" and have the "right stuff" but > everyone thinks I'm a nut. I don't think so, well, yeah a nut but not a nut > with a death wish. Can paddling alone safely ever be regarded as safe? OR, > if a great white gets me will people always say "too bad, he had a knife, pfd, > float plan, flares, vhf, kitchen sink etc. but he broke the rule, he went out > alone". To me, the lesson is not to get in the boat without putting all the appropriate gear in with you. I have a big green box that has all my kayaking junk, and it stays in the back of the car whenever I have the boat with me. It only takes an extra 10-15 minutes to move the stuff from the box to the boat; so I have to ask myself, is saving 15 minutes worth it for the possibility of ending up lost on the open water with no flare, strobe, or phone? Is it worth it to go out on the water, paddle or power, without reading the weather report? >From the trip report posted, even the addition of just the paddlefloat would likely have made for a much more comfortable result. Around here, we have ticket happy LEOs, so you'd probably also get a ticket for not having the required signalling devices on board. Paddling in a group, without spray skirts, strobes, paddlefloats, radios, flares, etc, seems just as dangerous if not more so than being alone without those things... > Comments? > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > > Richard Walker Houston, TX *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I paddle solo quite a bit. I also have all the suggested safety devices, including a VHF radio. Re-entry and roll using a paddle float is surprisingly easy. I think of a spare paddle as required equipment even if you do use a leash. A spare paddle is easy to make at a cost of about $10. I saw a group of kayakers taking a paddling lesson on the beach in Blackstone Bay in Alaska. They then got into their doubles wearing their regular outdoor attire including knee high rubber boots. This was a guided group. I couldn't believe it. The surface of Blackstone Bay is completely covered with ice in some places. The water temperature must be close to freezing. Probably very few of us practice rescues as much as we should. Maybe we should devote at least 10% of our paddling time to rescue practice. Keith Kaste WILAX_at_aol.com wrote: > Great trip report! > So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? > Comments? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:48 PM 7/7/98 EDT, WILAX_at_aol.com wrote: >So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? I know I do. >I am ultra careful to do the "right thing" and have the "right stuff" but >everyone thinks I'm a nut. I don't think so, well, yeah a nut but not a nut >with a death wish. Can paddling alone safely ever be regarded as safe? OR, >if a great white gets me will people always say "too bad, he had a knife, pfd, >float plan, flares, vhf, kitchen sink etc. but he broke the rule, he went out >alone". >Comments? I paddle alone, prefer to in fact. I take the whole nine yards (except for epirb and phone/radio), plus a survival kit. I've had the luxury of being trained to manage in survival situations (on land, admittedly), and have chosen to practice these skills often enough to believe they are bombproof. I like to go places some would consider dangerous (some folks are scared of snakes and gators), but the swamps and blackwater rivers of the South are incredible places. Two reasons I'm comfortable solo paddling: I could die for stupid reasons anyway; I minimize the risks by being mentally and physically capable of handling the situation. I make the choice not to carry a radio, because of the cost and because I paddle to get away, not stay in touch. Hell, I've got good insurance; I'm probably worth more to my wife as a settlement. If I only paddled with others, I'd never paddle, or would only paddle with folks with minimal skills and experience. There ain't many sea kayakers in south GA. I see other experienced kayakers about once or twice a year. Wynne Americus, GA USA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
WILAX_at_aol.com wrote: > Great trip report! > So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? I know I do. Wouldn't kayak if I couldn't be alone much of the time. But I also enjoy company sometimes. Risky? Probably. Had two water related tragedies here this past week. A fella was diving from a 150' cliff into 90 feet of water (intentionally for fun). They are still looking for the body. In another accident a 17 yr old girl was in her sleeping bag behind her tent pitched in the sage brush near a remote boat launch. Her 21 year old male friend in a pick-up ran over her. Still alive with shattered pelvis. Getting out of bed is risky -- or staying in it. But thanks to good trip reports and ideas from ya'all, I can reduce the risk in some ways while taking more in areas I want to -- like finding solitude. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Paul, Thank you for posting your experience on this list. It is a good heads up for many. I would like to comment on a couple of things. > He suggested we go out on the river for an hour or so of casual > drifting just to relax, so I did so at 6 thinking he'd be along > soon, but as I kept paddling out into the center of the Hudson > and turning around to look for him at the boat club he didn't > show because his couple was an hour late. It is better not to count on people being on time . What I do when the expected people do not show up, is to practice rescues and rolls close to shore. If they ever show up and it is too late I just get out of the water and say "maybe next time". I suggest you do that instead of paddling out next time. > windward side of the boat, but I was unable to move as the > paddle leash was wrapping around my right leg while the boat > continued to roll, making it tighter. I gasped for air, the > boat continued to roll with each wave and my leg started to > raise up, sending me below. My case against paddle leashes rests. The $25 of a spare kayak paddle at REI is a lot cheaper than your life. > and one foot in the cockpit. Without a float and support for > the other leg, when I tried to get it into the boat it rolled > again. I tried three times anyway, eventually gave up on it and If you knew how to do a re-entry and paddlefloat roll, the paddlefloat would have helped you. Otherwise you would have found out the hard way that the classic paddlefloat re-entry is only good for calm waters. > shivering continued, but didn't worsen. I tried the whistle a > number of times, but nobody was around to hear it. I felt I used the whitle many times without any success. Not even paddlers 100 yards away would hear it. The best response I have gotten is "We thought it was a bird!". Whitles make your ears ring, but when calling for attention they are useless. That is why they give them out for free. > Alan was white as a sheet. We loaded the boats onto our cars, In the conditions you describe, Alan would have just been another victim. When conditions get rough people paddle for their lives and groups disperse as waves cut out the visibility among the members of the group. > 5) no strobe on my vest, it was here in the closet, safe at home Strobes help SAR to find someone at night. The average boater does not know what a strobe light signals, nor cares about it. A six pack of beer is more effective on calling their attention. > 7) no knife Do not try cutting a rope with a knife in braking waves. You would most likely end up injuring yourself. Just get rid of that bloddy tether and get a spare paddle. A small canoe paddle should be enough. > > 9)Tether the bilge pump in. I nearly lost it three times. Pumping water out in rought conditions is useless. It only invites another capsize. Roll up with the paddlefloat, and leave it on you blade to keep upright until the situation gets better -better weather, rescue arrives, someone tows you. > 10)I was out alone. No company is better than bad company. See comment four paragraphs above. > > I'm still shaken. When I got home the next night I watched a > Trailside episode that taped while I was gone to try to relax. Kill your TV. I would make your life more enjoyable. > > Extrasport PFD worked well, but **only because the waist strap > was cinched as tightly as I could stand it**. A mistake I think My extrasport was retired last year for that reason. What I paid for my current PFD, a Lotus, is definetely worth the investment. Thanks again Paul. Sharing your experiences with others might save some lives. - Julio *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:48 PM 7/7/98 -0400, WILAX_at_aol.com wrote: >Great trip report! >So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? I know I do. >I am ultra careful to do the "right thing" and have the "right stuff" but >everyone thinks I'm a nut. I don't think so, well, yeah a nut but not a nut >with a death wish. Can paddling alone safely ever be regarded as safe? OR, >if a great white gets me will people always say "too bad, he had a knife, pfd, >float plan, flares, vhf, kitchen sink etc. but he broke the rule, he went out >alone". >Comments? My first impulse is to say "Why the hell do you care what everyone thinks?" But really, the question should be considered seriously. I go out alone more than 50% of the time and with people less experienced than I maybe another 20%. I acknowledge that there are risks associated with solo paddling and I'm willing to accept them. Are my abilities to deal with all emergency situations perfected? Absolutely not! Do I work to improve them? Yes, but not obsessively. I enjoy paddling and paddling alone for many reasons. I try to take precautions and act safely by "My Individual Measurement System". Perhaps, most importantly, I try to behave so as not to put the safety of others at risk. I try always to have a safety plan that doesn't depend on the actions of others. Beyond that, I try not to eat, sleep and drink safety. I think are all grateful to Paul for sharing his story and admitting some actions that we might label unsafe. Like the book "Deep Trouble", I think we can all learn from Paul's story and perhaps recalibrate our own safety techniques. Thanks Paul! In the end though, I'm not going to stop crossing the street because someone, somewhere once got run over. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:48 PM 7/7/98 EDT, WILAX_at_aol.com wrote: >Great trip report! >So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? ...Can paddling >alone safely ever be regarded as safe? OR, >if a great white gets me will people always say "too bad, he had a knife, pfd, >float plan, flares, vhf, kitchen sink etc. but he broke the rule, he went out >alone". >Comments? > It's been my experience that many kayakers are introverts. They enjoy being alone and renewing their energy paddling out on the sea by themselves. I agree with you that it is very important to be as prepared as possible for almost anything. However, IMHO, when people argue that it is unsafe to kayak, hike, climb, etc. alone, they are arguing that their point of view is more important and more right that the introvert's. Many, many, many people want you to believe what they believe. I think they see it as validation that they are right if they can convince you to take on their beliefs. Another method they use is to make it illegal to act in a way that doesn't match what they believe. Sorry. You hit a tender spot. I paddle both with groups and alone. On the Myers-Briggs scale I'm an extrovert, but just barely. I think modern society is far too concerned with wrapping all its members in a safe womb so no one will be harmed. Bill Ridlon *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
outdoors_at_biddeford.com wrote: > > At 01:48 PM 7/7/98 EDT, WILAX_at_aol.com wrote: > >So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? ...Can > paddling >alone safely ever be regarded as safe? > It's been my experience that many kayakers are introverts. They enjoy being > alone and renewing their energy paddling out on the sea by themselves. I > agree with you that it is very important to be as prepared as possible for > almost anything. However, IMHO, when people argue that it is unsafe to > kayak, hike, climb, etc. alone, they are arguing that their point of view is > more important and more right than the introvert's. Many, many, many people > want you to believe what they believe. I think they see it as validation > that they are right if they can convince you to take on their beliefs. > Another method they use is to make it illegal to act in a way that doesn't > match what they believe. > [snip] I think modern > society is far too concerned with wrapping all its members in a safe womb so > no one will be harmed. > > Bill Ridlon Bill did a bang-up job of summarizing my point of view on solo paddling, and scratched my bias about people who want to "protect" me from my own poor judgement, as well. I, also, paddle solo, now and then over 25 days/year, with a couple overnight ventures amongst those days. Re: the safety angle: I suspect the issue may not be whether you paddle SOLO, but HOW you paddle solo, and WHERE you paddle solo. Thrown in might be your skill level and degree of inventiveness in retrieving yourself from predicaments. I know I have spent a couple dozen days on the Lower Columbia River, sometimes in sections commonly regarded as "dangerous," and did not feel at risk. I sometimes like solo paddling because I feel more at one with my natural surroundings. Most of the time, though, I get lonely for company, and decide it's more fun to paddle with one or two others. Sure hate the mob scenes the formal clubs seem to generate, however! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
First of all, thanks for sharing your story Paul. Sometimes a shake up call is needed for all of us. Some by reading. Some by doing. Sharing and comparing is what this list is about I guess. I too paddle mostly alone. Infact, up until I introduced some others to kayaking just a short 5 or so months ago, I paddled alone almost all of the time. My wife is good for a trip or two ayear, other wise it was just me.(marrage and kids claimed my old paddling buddy) :>( Most of my paddling is during the fall/winter/spring. Times when the area lakes and feeder rivers are devoid of the "normal" traffic. My solo trips are all two/three days or longer. I also like to paddle at night, during the winter, and alone. I've been snowed in, iced in, and had to break ice as I went. (Yes, I knew the risks and the price I would pay if I went in. I call it life) At times like these my only concern was my wife worring about me, not my safety. I would NEVER do this with most other people. I say most, because I have on one occasion with the person than went with me down the yukon river.(we spent Christmas and several days alternating between breaking ice and paddling on an area river, a few years ago) Quite frankly, I didn't know being alone was so differant or dangerous until I got on this site. I always figured that being alone was a frame of mind anyway and being with someone was false security more than likely. Many times I "wish" I could share a moment or show something to someone else, but the truth is, many of those "things" never happen when I am with someone else. My wife is the exception. We can go whole days without speaking. Only commuicating by eye or face exspresions. Interestingly, I feel more at risk and think more of safty when I am with someone. Being alone is natural and being with anouther person I start going through the "what if" thoughts. Maybe this is the opposite that others go through. I would think each person should do what makes them comfortable. Just be prepared to take care of yourself and not rely on others for your safety. As John said, kayaking is also one of the safest things I do. Sure safer than grocery shopping on double stamp day! :>) James *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
James Lofton wrote: >My wife is the exception. We can go whole days without speaking.< Yeah, James, it's the same with my wife and me, except the motivation might be a little different. <g> I like paddling alone, but I'm not sure about the icebreaking part. Regards, Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:48 PM 7/7/98 EDT, WILAX_at_aol.com wrote: > >Great trip report! >So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? I know I do. i do. lakes 75% of the time. rivers the other 25%. i probably paddle 30% of my paddling alone. although this year not as much as my two of my daughter's are now paddling too. mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index of Paddling websites I manage] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page #-Fortune: Langsam's Laws: (1) Everything depends. (2) Nothing is always. (3) Everything is sometimes. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
If I didn't regularly go out alone, I wouldn't get very much paddling in. I paddle as a regular fitness routine, usually 3 or 4 times a week, and the great majority of the time I'm alone. I do feel I'm safe, however, having practiced rolling and especially self-rescue in rough conditions. Part of my enjoyment of kayaking is to go out in challenging conditions. By doing so when the conditions present themselves, I have improved my skills and my comfort level. I paddle in Skagit Bay, which is a relatively small body of water with some islands. The Bay in places is as little as 1.5 miles across, but has a long fetch in a North/South direction (perhaps 20 miles). In very windy conditions, I can rest in the lee of an Island, then go out into more exposed areas where there may be longer fetches, accelerated winds, or tide rips. I feel I can control the risk and still do some very challenging (and fun) kayaking by myself. -----Original Message----- From: WILAX_at_aol.com [SMTP:WILAX_at_aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 10:48 AM To: phollerb_at_mail.burlco.lib.nj.us; paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] I knew better, but look what happened ! Great trip report! So now folks, lets take a poll... How many of you go out alone? I know I do. I am ultra careful to do the "right thing" and have the "right stuff" but everyone thinks I'm a nut. I don't think so, well, yeah a nut but not a nut with a death wish. Can paddling alone safely ever be regarded as safe? OR, if a great white gets me will people always say "too bad, he had a knife, pfd, float plan, flares, vhf, kitchen sink etc. but he broke the rule, he went out alone". Comments? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 98-07-07 11:10:23 EDT, Paul Hollerbach <phollerb_at_mail.burlco.lib.nj.us> writes: << I've been canoeing since a kid, kayaking for six years, am always out hiking, camping and x-c skiing the rest of the time. In other words, I knew better, but look at what happened ! >> This was an excellent, effective object lesson for all of us, and I'd like to join the crowd in thanking Paul for writing it and for sharing it with the lists. I agree with an earlier post, Paul --- I also felt like I was there with you. Well written! Glad you were around to write it! There has been a good discussion of the "lessons-learned" from this episode, and, clearly, Paul's lack of awareness or appreciation of the oncoming weather was at the core of his incident; but just as in aircraft accident investigation, we need to look at all of the contributory data, as well. And that's been discussed in some detail --- except for Paul's inability to roll. It was suggested early on --- possibly by Ralph Diaz? --- that virtually no one could have rolled back up repeatedly in a squall with an intensity which Paul described. This seems like a valid point, and we're in no position to challenge that now. But Paul's experience was an extreme situation, and I don't think we should accept the severity of the situation and dismiss the real value to all sea kayakers to learn a roll as his or her primary self- rescue method. And I'm not suggesting this was done in the analysis of Paul's story, but I'd hate to see the discussion die down without some discussion on rolls versus all our apparent concentration on paddlefloat rescues --- which are difficult enough in flat water in benign conditions, and would have been of value to Paul, had he <had> his paddlefloat with him, only at the end of the incident, after the storm had died down. Maybe. Learning to roll gives a paddler one great advantage: you learn to roll so you don't have to! Rolling becomes a sport, an entertainment, a contest to see what widgets can be used, and that a roll can even be accomplished <without> widgets like paddles and throwing sticks and floats --- a hand roll. Rolling develops skills in bracing and sculling which can be used in knockdown situations most of us encounter in clapotis and surf. Rolling, in most situations in which we'd find ourselves, gives us a way to right the boat, stay with it, and exclude most of the water we'd need to pump out under a paddlefloat or assisted re-entry, all in one relatively simple action. And even in a knockdown which puts us out of the boat, a re-entry and roll --- possibly assisted by a paddlefloat, even for more experienced rollers --- is a much quicker and easier way to get back into the boat --- assuming we've developed at least a very basic but reliable "dry-side-up" roll. There are mystiques about rolls. "It's hard to learn." "It's impossible to learn!" Not so. If you can get a good coach, an instructor who can work with you, any of us can learn to roll --- I'm convinced of that because I'm one of the least coordinated people I know, and I have a decent on-side roll. Charlie Cole taught me. Ron Casterline, Greg Welker and a large contingent of other CPA paddlers, all with solid if not performance quality rolls, teach rolling in one-on-one tutorials every Wednesday night in Annapolis. When you see 20 to 30 regular paddlers show up at Pier 7 every Wednesday and the majority --- maybe the vast majority --- have or are close to having a serviceable roll, you have to believe that any of us can learn. Screw the mystiques --- get a good instructor! That's my piece. I've said it, and I'd like to again thank Paul for an excellent story on a scary event. Having the right equipment with you <at all times> is a critical point made by this incident, but an even more important although tacit point is to be prepared and ready to <use> it in extremis as Paul had to do, and to learn as many of the most efficient techniques as possible to stay in and on your boat. Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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