John Winters wrote, Designers, like boats, come in all kinds of shapes, sizes and objectives....etc. John, Thanks for your very astute answer to my question. I'm sure you are right on all counts. Sea kayaking covers a very wide spectrum which is one of the great things about it. No designer can hope to please everyone; keep depositing those checks! I really don't care if anyone designs something to compete with the Coaster, I've already got one. In fact, if someone did surpass the Coaster design, I'd have to shell out the bucks for another boat! I was just curious about the whole situation. Dan mentioned paddling in rock gardens in a "long" sea kayak (what kind?). Yes, I know a skilled paddler can paddle a longer boat in rocks and surf. Several of us used to do it (with varying degrees of success) before we discovered shorter boats. The bottom line is, if it works for you, great. But give it a try in the Coaster, then let me know what you think. Have we exhausted this subject yet? John Lull *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 09:53 AM 10/14/98 -0700, John Lull wrote: > > >John Winters wrote, > >Designers, like boats, come in all kinds of shapes, sizes and objectives....etc. > >John, >Thanks for your very astute answer to my question. I'm sure you are right on all counts. Sea kayaking covers a very wide spectrum which is one of the great things about it. No designer can hope to please everyone; keep depositing those checks! I really don't care if anyone designs something to compete with the Coaster, I've already got one. In fact, if someone did surpass the Coaster design, I'd have to shell out the bucks for another boat! I was just curious about the whole situation. > >Dan mentioned paddling in rock gardens in a "long" sea kayak (what kind?). Yes, I know a skilled paddler can paddle a longer boat in rocks and surf. Several of us used to do it (with varying degrees of success) before we discovered shorter boats. The bottom line is, if it works for you, great. But give it a try in the Coaster, then let me know what you think. Have we exhausted this subject yet? > >John Lull > Sitting here on the Southeast coast of the US and reading all this about the Coaster and rock gardens I can see why yall might like short boats. In the swamps here they are nice also but unless you paddle the swamps all the time they are practically useless. Unless for a vertical challenged person who would fit perfect in a small kayak anything under 16 ft is a pain to paddle with. They are forward challenged ( slow). I do not know if it is because the persons size and or strength has anything to do with it or not . I like a 19ft kayak but I am kinda large. We do not have any rocks , Canadian or other wise just a lot of beautiful sand.The only rock gardens we have are in front of our houses. Back to small kayaks.We have many women here who are vertically challenged and the only kayaks that will fit them and paddle well are wilderness systems piccolo, tchaika and sparrow hawk. With the comments from one woman about groovy bruises from the Coaster what other smaller kayaks out there that are not tubs. ?? Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
The new Current Design Slipstream is about the same size as the Arctic Sparrow and a terrific boat at 16' X 22" Tdittrich > -----Original Message----- > From: dldecker_at_mediaone.net [SMTP:dldecker_at_mediaone.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 6:25 PM > To: 'PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net' > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] FW: FW: FW: Speed and short boats > > At 09:53 AM 10/14/98 -0700, John Lull wrote: > > > > > >John Winters wrote, > > > >Designers, like boats, come in all kinds of shapes, sizes and > objectives....etc. > > > >John, > >Thanks for your very astute answer to my question. I'm sure you are > right > on all counts. Sea kayaking covers a very wide spectrum which is one > of > the great things about it. No designer can hope to please everyone; > keep > depositing those checks! I really don't care if anyone designs > something > to compete with the Coaster, I've already got one. In fact, if > someone did > surpass the Coaster design, I'd have to shell out the bucks for > another > boat! I was just curious about the whole situation. > > > >Dan mentioned paddling in rock gardens in a "long" sea kayak (what > kind?). > Yes, I know a skilled paddler can paddle a longer boat in rocks and > surf. > Several of us used to do it (with varying degrees of success) before > we > discovered shorter boats. The bottom line is, if it works for you, > great. > But give it a try in the Coaster, then let me know what you think. > Have we > exhausted this subject yet? > > > >John Lull > > > > > Sitting here on the Southeast coast of the US and reading all this > about > the Coaster and rock gardens I can see why yall might like short > boats. In > the swamps here they are nice also but unless you paddle the swamps > all the > time they are practically useless. Unless for a vertical challenged > person > who would fit perfect in a small kayak anything under 16 ft is a pain > to > paddle with. They are forward challenged ( slow). I do not know if it > is > because the persons size and or strength has anything to do with it or > not > . I like a 19ft kayak but I am kinda large. We do not have any rocks , > Canadian or other wise just a lot of beautiful sand.The only rock > gardens > we have are in front of our houses. Back to small kayaks.We have many > women > here who are vertically challenged and the only kayaks that will fit > them > and paddle well are wilderness systems piccolo, tchaika and sparrow > hawk. > With the comments from one woman about groovy bruises from the Coaster > what > other smaller kayaks out there that are not tubs. ?? > > > Dana > ********************************************************************** > ***** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > ********************************************************************** > ***** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/15/98 10:12:27 AM EDT, TDittrich_at_HomeATM.com writes: << The new Current Design Slipstream is about the same size as the Arctic Sparrow and a terrific boat at 16' X 22" Tdittrich >> Just a simple correction from a person obsessed with details. The Sparrow Hawk (a mighty fine boat for me) is the boat you're equating with the Slipstream. The Arctic Hawk is about a foot longer. :) Sandy *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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