Now we're off the subject of paddles... I'm about to blow my allowance on a paddle upgrade. I have a vertical stroke and like to go fast. Any experience with bent shafts? Forgive me if this was touched upon during the last flurry of paddle talk; my eyes glazed toward the end of the thread. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
While we're discussing shafts what are the pros and cons of Graphite Vs FG. I've cut my Carbon Swift down to the length of my FG Lendal. I seem to suffer little or no elbow or shoulder pain with the Lendal, but some with the Swift. Is it psychosomatic or is there really any benefit of the fiberglass shaft? >>>I'm about to blow my allowance on a paddle upgrade. I have a vertical stroke and like to go fast. Any experience with bent shafts? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Edward Sullivan wrote: > > Now we're off the subject of paddles... > > I'm about to blow my allowance on a paddle upgrade. I have a vertical > stroke and like to go fast. Any experience with bent shafts? > > Forgive me if this was touched upon during the last flurry of paddle > talk; my eyes glazed toward the end of the thread. i love my bent shaft paddle!! it's nice and llight, and really fast. a few years ago, my daughter and i entered a race, and won our class, for that we recieved a cash prize, but she also won a door prize, a brand new bent shaft paddle, which was even her size... she loves it too. mark ps, you were talking about canoe paddles, right? #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: "In a world without fences, who needs 'Gates'" -- Scott McNealy "In a world without walls, who needs 'Windows'" -- Dave Livigni *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> ps, you were talking about canoe paddles, right? > Huh uh; double-blades. I know Current Designs makes one in graphite. Looks a little like a curl bar for weightlifting. Supposed to give a more ergonomic angle to the wrist. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 12:53:54PM -0700, Edward Sullivan wrote: > Huh uh; double-blades. I know Current Designs makes one in graphite. > Looks a little like a curl bar for weightlifting. Supposed to give a > more ergonomic angle to the wrist. A lot of slalom racers use bent-shaft (also called "double-torque") paddles. I've tried one -- it takes a bit of getting used to, but it does make holding a duffek steady under power much easier. ---Rsk Rich Kulawiec rsk_at_gsp.org *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> > ps, you were talking about canoe paddles, right? > > # http://www.awa.org/yellow_pages/whisper/ This is the only picture of one I could find. It's whitewater, but you get the idea. p.s. Remember: never mix a metaphore with a dead horse. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
The best bentshaft paddle I have seen is made by AT Paddles. Their whitewater paddle is used by many many experts, and I am pretty much addicted to mine. They now make a sea kayak paddle with a longer shaft and smaller blade -- rex Roberton has a prototype, which I really really liked for the three minutes that Rex let it out of his hands. I still prefer a Greenland paddle, but if I had a lot of money to blow on a paddle, I would get an AT paddle. I think Alder Creek in Portland sells them (www.aldercreek.com). Cheers, Kevin ___________________ / Kevin Whilden \ |Dept. of Geosciences \___ |University of Washington \ |kwhilden_at_u.washington.edu| \________________________/ On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Edward Sullivan wrote: > Now we're off the subject of paddles... > > I'm about to blow my allowance on a paddle upgrade. I have a vertical > stroke and like to go fast. Any experience with bent shafts? > > Forgive me if this was touched upon during the last flurry of paddle > talk; my eyes glazed toward the end of the thread. > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
There a two types of "new age" shafts: One the Double-torque (DT) mainly used by WW slalom paddlers and the Modified-crank (MC) shaft mainly used by Sea and Touring paddlers. The difference between a DT and a MC is the way that the shaft has been designed. The DT: if you look down the shaft consists of three parallel pieces (no in line with each other) where these are joined together is were you hold the shaft. MC: if you look down the shaft consists of three pieces in line with each other the shaft has a bend where you hold the shaft. The MC takes less effort to get used to but the DT is more ergonomic if set up properly. The distance between the hands should be shoulderwidth plus 6 cm ( 2 and a bit inches for the non metric) this applies for both shafts. >>Snip Bob asked: While we're discussing shafts what are the pros and cons of Graphite Vs FG. I've cut my Carbon Swift down to the length of my FG Lendal. I seem to suffer little or no elbow or shoulder pain with the Lendal, but some with the Swift. Shoulder and elbow pain could be caused by a to springy (flexible) shaft, Lendal's FG shafts are usually fairly stiff (non springy). I hope all the above makes sense, its hard for a Dutch man to explain this in English. If you see the shafts next to each other you will see strait away what I tried to explain. Groetjes, Len > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Kulawiec [SMTP:rsk_at_gsp.org] > Sent: 02 October 1998 21:25 > To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bent shaft paddles > > On Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 12:53:54PM -0700, Edward Sullivan wrote: > > Huh uh; double-blades. I know Current Designs makes one in graphite. > > Looks a little like a curl bar for weightlifting. Supposed to give a > > more ergonomic angle to the wrist. > > A lot of slalom racers use bent-shaft (also called "double-torque") > paddles. I've tried one -- it takes a bit of getting used to, > but it does make holding a duffek steady under power much easier. > > ---Rsk > Rich Kulawiec > rsk_at_gsp.org > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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