Several comments have appeared concerning the building of a baidarka. One asks the name/number of a person who offers classes in the NW - I know of an excellent instructor in the mid-west, Mark Rogers of Superior Kayaks (who designed the Arctic Hawk by the way). Mark & his wife, Celeste, offer classes at various times during the year in construction of skin & hard shell boats - Aleutian and Greenland styles. In both classes, you walk away with a finished or near finished boat for the cost. His number is (920)732-3784 in Wisconsin. Also Brink's book is an excellent read and full of useful information though the craft, as described, is reportedly more unstable than it needs be. Stay on the dry side, D. A. "Skip" Higgins of RASKA "http://www.execpc.com/~raskal" *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 11/12/1998 11:52:36 AM EST, johncw_at_narrows.com writes: Does anyone know the name etc. of the guy in Olympia Washington who teaches wood/skin baidarka building? A friend of mine wants to make one but hasn't been able to track him down. Thanks John Winskill All you need to do is get some driftwood and tie a frame together. Then you cover it with something. Whatever doesn't work really good, you change it to a better functional form on the next one you build. Each time you build a new one, you add these corections. After a couple of thousand years, you will be building what looks very similar to a baidarka (maybe) covered with seal skin just like the one you are seeking information on how to build. The personal gratifaction to you for doing this would be tremendous. Many articles would be written in the future about your marvelous boat and teh skills you have gained on how to "control" it. If you work really hard, you may even become a "certified baidarka instructor". There are no "plans" for a baidarka. It has evolved over time to meet the needs of the customer. Not a new concept at all. The ones built with "plans" aren't a baidarka, they just look like one. John LeBlanc *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Actually a baidarka is just a kayak It's the English spelling of the Russian word that sounds like BUY-DARR-AH Which is probably the Russian word for an Eskimo word I think we all understand that John is trying to get information on a particular style of fabric and frame kayak. - :-) - Saul At 05:55 PM 11/12/98 EST, Johnlebl_at_aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 11/12/1998 11:52:36 AM EST, johncw_at_narrows.com writes: > >Does anyone know the name etc. of the guy in Olympia Washington who teaches >wood/skin baidarka building? A friend of mine wants to make one but hasn't >been able to track him down. >Thanks >John Winskill > >All you need to do is get some driftwood and tie a frame together. Then you >cover it with something. Whatever doesn't work really good, you change it to >a better functional form on the next one you build. Each time you build a new >one, you add these corections. > >After a couple of thousand years, you will be building what looks very similar >to a baidarka (maybe) covered with seal skin just like the one you are >seeking information on how to build. The personal gratifaction to you for >doing this would be tremendous. Many articles would be written in the future >about your marvelous boat and teh skills you have gained on how to "control" >it. > >If you work really hard, you may even become a "certified baidarka >instructor". > >There are no "plans" for a baidarka. It has evolved over time to meet the >needs of the customer. Not a new concept at all. The ones built with "plans" >aren't a baidarka, they just look like one. > >John LeBlanc >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Actually, baidar means boat. The ~ka at the end is/was a diminutive. To find out about baidarka construction, join the list baidarka-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Making a baidarka requires more work than making a Greenland kayak because it has more ribs, and the bow piece has to be carved out of bare wood. There are many plans around, from the documented historic baidarkas, to new designs made by skin boat fanatics. Check: http://www.skinboats.com/spirit.htm Or get the book: The Aleutian Kayak, by Wolfgang Brink, available from amazon.com. - Julio > > Actually a baidarka is just a kayak > > It's the English spelling of the Russian word that sounds like BUY-DARR-AH > > Which is probably the Russian word for an Eskimo word > > I think we all understand that John is trying to get information on a > particular style of fabric and frame kayak. > > - :-) - Saul > > At 05:55 PM 11/12/98 EST, Johnlebl_at_aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 11/12/1998 11:52:36 AM EST, johncw_at_narrows.com writes: > > > >Does anyone know the name etc. of the guy in Olympia Washington who teaches > >wood/skin baidarka building? A friend of mine wants to make one but hasn't > >been able to track him down. > >Thanks > >John Winskill > > > >All you need to do is get some driftwood and tie a frame together. Then you > >cover it with something. Whatever doesn't work really good, you change it to > >a better functional form on the next one you build. Each time you build a > new > >one, you add these corections. > > > >After a couple of thousand years, you will be building what looks very > similar > >to a baidarka (maybe) covered with seal skin just like the one you are > >seeking information on how to build. The personal gratifaction to you for > >doing this would be tremendous. Many articles would be written in the future > >about your marvelous boat and teh skills you have gained on how to "control" > >it. > > > >If you work really hard, you may even become a "certified baidarka > >instructor". > > > >There are no "plans" for a baidarka. It has evolved over time to meet the > >needs of the customer. Not a new concept at all. The ones built with > "plans" > >aren't a baidarka, they just look like one. > > > >John LeBlanc > >*************************************************************************** > >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > >*************************************************************************** > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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