Anyone familiar with the SealLine Baja Bags by Cascade? Do they work? Other suggestions ... I need a couple of bags [various sizes] and want to make sure whatever it is I buy works -- no matter the weather/water conditions. The SealLines also seem reasonably priced! Cheers! Jim Tynan Pike Road AL BTW -- If this is a repeat of an old thread, my apologies to those weary of hitting the delete button! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 2/26/99 10:30:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, kayakbound_at_worldnet.att.net writes: << Anyone familiar with the SealLine Baja Bags by Cascade? Do they work >> Jim, I got a Sealline Baja 5 as an xmas present and it works great, couldnt give you an idea of a good price though. It uses a simple 3 fold closure with a snap that is really easy to work with. Storage space in this little guy is limited though. hope that helps a little, robin. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I have a bunch of the smaller ones; some for a coupla years. They've always worked well. I keep my GPS receiver in one. >Anyone familiar with the SealLine Baja Bags by Cascade? Do they work? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Jim - If you plan on using your bags alot, I would recommend you invest a little more money and purchase the bags made out of Cordora (sp?) or the new nylon type bags. These new fabrics seem to wear better and they are much easier to cram in tight places (I do a lot of kayak camping). I believe the SeaLine Cordora bags are called Black Canyon (they are the same baja style just better material). Remember, for kayaking purposes, generally the smaller the better. I have many 10s, several 15s, and a couple of 20s (for sleeping bag, etc.). Hope this helps. Debbie Reeves Sandy Hook, NJ > ---------- > From: kayakbound[SMTP:kayakbound_at_worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 1:10 PM > To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: [Paddlewise] Dry bags > > Anyone familiar with the SealLine Baja Bags by Cascade? Do they work? > Other suggestions ... > > I need a couple of bags [various sizes] and want to make sure whatever it > is > I buy works -- no matter the weather/water conditions. The SealLines also > seem reasonably priced! > > Cheers! > > Jim Tynan > Pike Road AL > > BTW -- If this is a repeat of an old thread, my apologies to those weary > of > hitting the delete button! > > ************************************************************************** > * > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > ************************************************************************** > * > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Reeves, Debbie (Debbie) wrote: > > Jim - > If you plan on using your bags alot, I would recommend you invest a little > more money and purchase the bags made out of Cordora (sp?) or the new nylon > type bags. These new fabrics seem to wear better and they are much easier > to cram in tight places (I do a lot of kayak camping). I believe the > SeaLine Cordora bags are called Black Canyon (they are the same baja style > just better material). Remember, for kayaking purposes, generally the > smaller the better. I have many 10s, several 15s, and a couple of 20s (for > sleeping bag, etc.). Hope this helps. > Debbie Reeves > Sandy Hook, NJ I am glad that Debbie brought up the point of bag size. I know that early on in the kayaking game, I purchased several bags that were way too big. I had (still do) a double Klepper and thought the big bags would save space in that there wouldn't be wasted space between bags that you would get with smaller bags. While the big bags worked okay in the Klepper, a more efficient packing scheme would be with smaller bags. I wasn't the only one. It was the first seakayaking camping trip I had been on and some people showed up with bags that made my "big" one seem puny. Needless to say those could not get into even the Klepper. Lots of 10 liter and 15 liter as suggested by Debbie is the way to go. Think of it as insurance policy. If you have things in, say 4 bags, that could fit into 1 large one you would only damage the contents of one quarter of your stash if a bag leaked whereas with the big one, you would be out of luck with everything that would suffer from exposure to water. Then, there is of course the easier time of going to just the specific bag holding certain contents rather than rummaging through a large bag. On brand names, I think you may also want to look at bags made by Seattle Sport. In side-by-side comparisons, I have found them tough and airtight. You know you have a good bag when you double over the first layer of the top and you can burp it of air. Test the bags you are looking at with that step. ralph -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Once a friend who was new to paddling borrowed a #10 for a few days and accidentally put a hole in it. I guess she must have felt awfully guilty, for instead of replacing it with another #10, she replaced it with the biggest bag I've ever seen -- the size of a small sail bag. Of course I didn't have the heart to say anything. I did, however, speak with the fellow who sold it to her. He thought it was a hoot, for he had been trying to unload it for a couple of years. To this day I've never figured out a use for the darn thing. Cheers, Richard Culpeper rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote: --snip-- > I am glad that Debbie brought up the point of bag size. I know that > early on in the kayaking game, I purchased several bags that were way > too big. --snip-- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I confess; my first two bags are big enough for me to climb into. It never occurred to me they wouldn't fit in the boat. Fortunately I do a lot of canoe camping in the winter and they will fit in the canoe (barely). Either that or I guess I could use them for shelter :-) Debbie ------------------------------- > I am glad that Debbie brought up the point of bag size. I know that > early on in the kayaking game, I purchased several bags that were way > too big. I had (still do) a double Klepper and thought the big bags > would save space in that there wouldn't be wasted space between bags > that you would get with smaller bags. While the big bags worked okay in > the Klepper, a more efficient packing scheme would be with smaller bags. > > I wasn't the only one. It was the first seakayaking camping trip I had > been on and some people showed up with bags that made my "big" one seem > puny. Needless to say those could not get into even the Klepper. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter > PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 > Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com > "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ************************************************************************** > * > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > ************************************************************************** > * > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I have a few drybags made by Outdoor Research that have worked very well. They're known as the "Advanced" Hydropruf Stuff Bag. They're a nylon cloth bag with an inner waterproof liner. All the inside seams are taped. The top is rolled as usual but it is kept closed by velcro rather than buckles. The have also sewn a tape strip with slots so you can 'biner or tie down the bag. They also have a nylon strap on the bottom so you can hang on while pulling stuff out. They're also narrow so they'll fit through that small circular hatch...... Some things came out a little damp once when the bag was under water for hours, but otherwise it seems trustworthy. I got mine at a place called the Nickel, but I've seen them at EMS as well. JP -----Original Message----- From: Reeves, Debbie >If you plan on using your bags alot, I would recommend you invest a little >more money and purchase the bags made out of Cordora (sp?) or the new nylon >type bags. Is cordura the same as ballistic nylon? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I've found the really huge bags to be handy for carrying gear from the landing point to the campsite, and also as a form of floatation, beyond that they make great gag gifts ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_norlink.net> To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry bags >Once a friend who was new to paddling borrowed a #10 for a few days and >accidentally put a hole in it. I guess she must have felt awfully guilty, for >instead of replacing it with another #10, she replaced it with the biggest bag >I've ever seen -- the size of a small sail bag. Of course I didn't have the >heart to say anything. I did, however, speak with the fellow who sold it to >her. He thought it was a hoot, for he had been trying to unload it for a couple >of years. To this day I've never figured out a use for the darn thing. > >Cheers, >Richard Culpeper > >rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote: >--snip-- > >> I am glad that Debbie brought up the point of bag size. I know that >> early on in the kayaking game, I purchased several bags that were way >> too big. > >--snip-- > >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I guess she must have felt awfully guilty, for >instead of replacing it with another #10, she replaced it with the biggest bag >I've ever seen -- the size of a small sail bag. Of course I didn't have the >heart to say anything. I did, however, speak with the fellow who sold it to >her. He thought it was a hoot, for he had been trying to unload it for a couple >of years. To this day I've never figured out a use for the darn thing. > >Cheers, >Richard Culpeper There is only one practical application for the really large dry bags. When camping for a few days out of your kayak it's always nice to have your mandolin or ukulele along. Simply pad it a little, wrap it in the zillion liter size dry bag, and bungie it on the back deck. Dennis *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 99-02-27 21:45:39 EST, you write: Cascade Designs, who make the SeaLine Baja bags, also make a longer, more tubular style dry bag that can be crammed way up into the bow or stern. (due to its long narrow shape. I think they call them Kodiak bags. They are made of coated nylon fabric, which is said to be a little more resistant to abrasion than the vinyl Baja bags. I use both, no problems yet, but also have not been severly tested - no dunkings, capsizes, or other harrowing experiences. Someone else pointed out that #5 is a good cockpit sized bag for a few necessities. Dan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 12:10 26-02-99 -0600, "kayakbound" <kayakbound_at_worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >Anyone familiar with the SealLine Baja Bags by Cascade? Do they work? >Other suggestions ... > >I need a couple of bags [various sizes] and want to make sure whatever it is >I buy works -- no matter the weather/water conditions. The SealLines also >seem reasonably priced! > >Cheers! > >Jim Tynan >Pike Road AL > >BTW -- If this is a repeat of an old thread, my apologies to those weary of >hitting the delete button! > they're really good bags as far as i'm concerned. i have them of various sizes, due to the openboat ;-) even with a halfmile swim down a river, only a little water got into the bags... and only the bags that hadn't been "burped" i swear _by_them_ not _at_them!! mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index of Paddling websites I manage] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
There is a company that makes a dry bag for a full sized guitar. My guitar is made of plastic and carbon fiber, and only requires sponsons to be seaworthy...he heh. cya -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net] On Behalf Of Lorraine&Dennis Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 2:54 PM To: culpeper_at_geocities.com; paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry bags I guess she must have felt awfully guilty, for >instead of replacing it with another #10, she replaced it with the biggest bag >I've ever seen -- the size of a small sail bag. Of course I didn't have the >heart to say anything. I did, however, speak with the fellow who sold it to >her. He thought it was a hoot, for he had been trying to unload it for a couple >of years. To this day I've never figured out a use for the darn thing. > >Cheers, >Richard Culpeper There is only one practical application for the really large dry bags. When camping for a few days out of your kayak it's always nice to have your mandolin or ukulele along. Simply pad it a little, wrap it in the zillion liter size dry bag, and bungie it on the back deck. Dennis *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
As a canoe camper I've used the larger size "backpack" style bags. It is nice if there are long portages to be able to hoist one pack on my back. I do, however, usually pack them with numerous smaller bags such as the OR stuuf sacks. In addition to double protection in case of a leak it is a lot easier to live out of a bunch of small bags. I haven't yaked yet and have a question. Do you yak'ers carry a large empty bag to place the smaller bags in for portages etc. Or is there a better way to avoid numerous trips ? THANKS, Hal -----Original Message----- From: Saul Kinderis [SMTP:saul_at_isomedia.com] Sent: den 28 februari 1999 03:23 To: culpeper_at_geocities.com; paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry bags I've found the really huge bags to be handy for carrying gear from the landing point to the campsite, and also as a form of floatation, beyond that they make great gag gifts ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_norlink.net> To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry bags >Once a friend who was new to paddling borrowed a #10 for a few days and >accidentally put a hole in it. I guess she must have felt awfully guilty, for >instead of replacing it with another #10, she replaced it with the biggest bag >I've ever seen -- the size of a small sail bag. Of course I didn't have the >heart to say anything. I did, however, speak with the fellow who sold it to >her. He thought it was a hoot, for he had been trying to unload it for a couple >of years. To this day I've never figured out a use for the darn thing. > >Cheers, >Richard Culpeper > >rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote: >--snip-- > >> I am glad that Debbie brought up the point of bag size. I know that >> early on in the kayaking game, I purchased several bags that were way >> too big. > >--snip-- > >*********************************************************************** **** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*********************************************************************** **** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> -----Original Message----- > From: Hal Christiansen [mailto:hal_at_mbox305.swipnet.se] snip > > Do you yak'ers carry a large empty bag to place the smaller > bags in for > portages etc. Or is there a better way to avoid numerous trips ? > One or two large mesh gear bags work quite well for hauling around a bunch of smaller drybags. Especially when the "portage" is across a muddy tidal flat at low tide. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Do you yak'ers carry a large empty bag to place the smaller > bags in for > portages etc. Or is there a better way to avoid numerous trips ? For lake to lake Boundary Waters style tripping, yes a large Duluth Pack style bag works pretty well for handling all the smaller drybags. Some of the paddling speed that can be obtained in a kayak can be lost in portaging while you empty out the boat and repack. Also, unfortunately, sea kayaks don't balance as well for a carry as an open canoe does. So transporitng the boat across portages is a little more of a struggle than with a canoe. If anyone knows of a good yoke for a kayak, I would be interested. A kayak is great for a base camp style trip, where you set up camp and then do day trip explorations as it is possible to cover a lot more water than if you were in a solo canoe, and you don't have to worry about lugging all the gear. Also offers a much greater comfort level on big lakes in wind and waves, although the canoe probably is the winner as a portaging boat. Dan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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