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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Wing helters
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:07:55 -0500
One of the paddlers on last weeks overnight trip to Ten Thousand Islands had
a wing shelter. It was worth it's weight in gold around noon, when the sun
was at it's hottest. It was almost cool underneath. It was the first thing
up and the last to be packed, and provided all the paddlers with sun shelter
during our stay on Picnic Key.

I've seen catalogs with the Moss, REI and Walrus shelters. Prices vary from
$49 to $199 for what seems like the identical shelter. In addition, there
seems to be a variety of poles available. Some are steel and others are
aluminum, both shock corded and telescoping.

This shelter seems like the ideal accessory, even for a day paddle, for a
more refreshing lunch break.

What are the groups experience with wing shelters?


The other items I found were a must have are some form or roll up table and
comfortable chairs all which have to be light weight and able to fit through
a small Valley hatch.

cya  
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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wing helters
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:35:17 -0800
Bob Denton wrote:
> 
> One of the paddlers on last weeks overnight trip to Ten Thousand Islands had
> a wing shelter. It was worth it's weight in gold around noon, when the sun
> was at it's hottest. It was almost cool underneath. It was the first thing
> up and the last to be packed, and provided all the paddlers with sun shelter
> during our stay on Picnic Key.
> 
> I've seen catalogs with the Moss, REI and Walrus shelters. Prices vary from
> $49 to $199 for what seems like the identical shelter. In addition, there
> seems to be a variety of poles available. Some are steel and others are
> aluminum, both shock corded and telescoping.
> 
> This shelter seems like the ideal accessory, even for a day paddle, for a
> more refreshing lunch break.
> 
> What are the groups experience with wing shelters?
> 
> The other items I found were a must have are some form or roll up table and
> comfortable chairs all which have to be light weight and able to fit through
> a small Valley hatch.
> 
> cya

I have used various such wing shelters and tarps including one of the
Moss ones that comes with no poles.  But not for day trips as I am not
in any situation with unbearable sun beating down as you may have down
your way.

The most versatile and cheapest I have found and used is the Annex Fly
made by Eureka to fit on various models of its tents but it can be made
to stand alone.  In camping, I use it as a stand alone shelter for
hanging out under in drizzle and even on clear days and nights.  A tarp
such as this takes some of the chill off of the night air as it retards
the heat radiating off your body.  It always surprises me how much
warmer it is under a tarp or wing shelter in the evening than
immediately outside it.  The Annex costs just $39.99 at Campmor, has 58
sq ft of coverage.  It comes with one pole, tiedown lines, and bag; it
weighs less than 2 pounds.  You can usually find things to tie the back
end off on or if not, use a paddle or half paddle.  If you use a paddle,
of course, put something down where it contacts the earth to reduce wear
on the blade or shaft end, whichever is in contact to the ground.  I use
a piece of hypalon from an old repair kit.  It is really only for one
person.  One of the other numerous wing shelters like those mentioned by
Bob will accomodate more individuals.

ralph diaz
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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Wing helters
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:18:25 -0500
The other items I found were a must have are some form or roll up table and
comfortable chairs all which have to be light weight and able to fit through
a small Valley hatch.

----------
I've never heard of a rollup table; can you elaborate?  A url would be
great.

As for the wing shelter, I got one from L.L. Bean but didn't get a chance to
use it.  The only time I took it out last year was on a canoe trip.  When I
needed it, it was really pouring and I didn't know how to put it up and
didn't have time to learn so I used an old tarp I had along.  So much for
trying things out in the back yard.
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From: <Tomckayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wing helters
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 23:52:53 EST
In a message dated 3/12/99 10:13:44 AM EST, BDenton_at_aquagulf.com writes:

<< What are the groups experience with wing shelters? >>

On a two week Alaskan trip I used a 19 foot home built wing based on the Moss
Parawing. I use it because I dislike being enclosed in a tent and it can be
set up over small fat spots between beach log etc. Its extra work to set up
and also extra weight.  Each of the three of us had their own tarp plus an
extra cook trap. I set one end low to the ground the other supported by a
Paddle.  The sleeping bag was used in a gore-tex bivy sack. We had eight days
of rain and it is not hard to stay dry 
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wing helters
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 23:46:26 -0800
Tomckayak_at_aol.com wrote:

> On a two week Alaskan trip I used a 19 foot home built wing based on the Moss
> Parawing. I use it because I dislike being enclosed in a tent and it can be
> set up over small flat spots between beach logs etc. It's extra work to set up
> and also extra weight.  Each of the three of us had their own tarp plus an
> extra cook trap. I set one end low to the ground, the other supported by a
> Paddle.  The sleeping bag was used in a gore-tex bivy sack. We had eight days
> of rain and it is not hard to stay dry

Impressive.  You say extra weight, but I bet your arrangement is lighter
than a 2-person tent.

What about bug harassment -- do you douse yourself in DEET?

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Hal Levine <hlevin_at_jlc.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wing helters
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:31:28 -0500
Tomckayak_at_aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/12/99 10:13:44 AM EST, BDenton_at_aquagulf.com writes:
>
> << What are the groups experience with wing shelters? >>
>

I have a Campmore knock off of the Moss Parawing and it is great.  The poles are
a little heavy but on a rainy trip it is nice to be able to sit outside and not
get wet.  We had to use it most every day on our last trip down the Saguneay in
August.  It is also a good way to collect clean rain water!
-

    Hal

    Wilton, NH

    Power your boat with carbohydrates,
    not hydrocarbons.

          http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin


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