There has been some discussion about creating an archive, but to date, no one has volunteered to do it. Thus, at present the only "archive" that is available is that which still remains on our individual email list. A shame too, for there is much valuable and interesting material that has been available through subscription to this mailing list. ---------- For what it's worth, I've created an area on my web site, (http://csisler.com/Paddlewise.htm), intended to store interesting Paddlewise threads. There are two recent threads out there now and I'll be adding Jack Martin's Lake Erie Death thread tonight. This is not something I'm willing to maintain all by myself. I will collect and post things I find to be of interest. If you think a thread has value, you should collect it and mail it to me for posting. Don't count on me doing so. I may not even know the thread is interesting. :-) I've taken the time so far to get permission from the authors of the posts before publishing the threads. I suspect at least one of the authors finds this process mildly irksome. I don't want any copyright issues but also don't want to be annoying. What do you think? I'm half of a mind to post whatever and remove all or part of it if someone complains. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Clyde Sisler writes ... > For what it's worth, I've created an area on my web site, > (http://csisler.com/Paddlewise.htm), intended to store interesting > Paddlewise threads. There are two recent threads out there now and I'll be > adding Jack Martin's Lake Erie Death thread tonight. <snip> > I've taken the time so far to get permission from the authors of the posts > before publishing the threads. I suspect at least one of the authors finds > this process mildly irksome. I don't want any copyright issues but also > don't want to be annoying. What do you think? I'm half of a mind to post > whatever and remove all or part of it if someone complains. The membership for this list is not closed. Although anyone could get a list of all subscribed email addresses, few are inclined to either care or bother to do so. There is no reasonable assumption that what is written here could not be read by anyone who cares to do so. With this in mind I think Sisler or anyone else could extract posts to create threads or archives provided that all attributions are kept and that no monetary profit is derived from making any such collections of threads/posts. Certainly if anyone objects to their inclusion in such an archive or thread, they can let the archive-master (webmaster) know and I am fairly certain that any reasonable request will be handled fairly. If anyone doesn't like the selection of posts, then they can either go fly a kite, or make their own archive. I applaud Clydes efforts. neal_at_bellhow.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>I've taken the time so far to get permission from the authors of the posts >before publishing the threads. I suspect at least one of the authors finds >this process mildly irksome. I don't want any copyright issues but also >don't want to be annoying. What do you think? I'm half of a mind to post >whatever and remove all or part of it if someone complains. If posts come through *without* a copyright restriction, I see no indication that the party did not intend for the material to be published freely. In otherwords, unless the party posting makes a declariation that "all rights reserved," or attaches a "copy right" symbol, go ahead and publish, simply giving the publishing party credit. Robert *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Date sent: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:16:56 -0600 (CST) To: "Sisler, Clyde" <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>, paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net From: "Robert C. Cline" <rcline_at_onramp.net> Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] L. VITO: RE the "ARCHIVE" In response to Clyde's post about republishing material on the list, Robert Cline wrote > > If posts come through *without* a copyright restriction, I see no > indication that the party did not intend for the material to be published > freely. > Seems like about a year ago we went through this concept. I'm sure Robert's right --- stuff does tend to become public domain unless it's stated to be otherwise (and, even then, it looks like it might be impossible to enforce protection), but I think Clyde was correct in asking if the authors had any problem in his reposting their inputs on a web site. We ought to be working within the spirit of the law, not just the letter, especially when we're trying to work together as some sort of electronically enhanced "group" on this list. While it may not be necessary to ask permission to republish, it's certainly a very appropriate thing for "friends" to to do with "friends", and I appreciated Clyde's request to reprint the article I wrote on Tom Hancock --- even though I specifically gave away all rights to re-post the material in the article itself, hoping that the word <would> get out to other lists and to other paddlers. Which is what Clyde is trying to do. I applaud his efforts and his means of getting there. Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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