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From: Peter Osman <PeterO_at_ambri.com.au>
subject: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:42:02 +1000
Steven Jarvis wrote: 

>Paddlewisers,
>
>I'm relatively new to touring kayaking, and when I really get into
>something, I like to delve into the literature of it (both the "literary"
>and the instructional). I'm the same way about flyfishing (a GREAT body of
>literature). So far, I've read (or am currently reading):

A book that I don't think has been mentioned yet is "The DreamTime Voyage -
Around Australia Odyssey" by Paul Caffyn. Published by Kayak Dundee Press in
1994 and 1996, ISBN 0-473-02349-0. The book is 186 pages long. It contains
some marvellous photographs of the Australian coast and a description of
Paul's year long voyage including: the odd historical anecdote, descriptions
of sites around the coast and some interesting comments on paddling. Dream
time is an Australian Aboriginal Term referring to their early history and
legends. My Mother in law and I both loved it and she doesn't paddle!

PeterO.
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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:49:54 -0400
I'm relatively new to touring kayaking, and when I really get into
something, I like to delve into the literature of it (both the "literary"
and the instructional). I'm the same way about flyfishing (a GREAT body of
literature). So far, I've read (or am currently reading):

---------

Here is a list of books and a couple of other reading list links:
http://csisler.com/ReadingList.htm

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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 05:17:55 EDT
In a message dated 4/5/99 6:44:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
tfj_at_interaccess.com writes:

<< Don Starkell's "Paddle to the Arctic" is an interesting study in 
microdecisions
 by a guy trying to paddle the Northwest Passage.  It could have used editing.
 The author seems both admirable and a little nuts. >>

"Admirable" isn't a word that would have come to my mind.  For a much-better 
account (which also might change your description), I highly recommend 
_Kabloona In A. Yellow Kayak_ by Victoria Jason.  Lyrical and inspirational.  
Mandatory reading for anyone contemplating a trip with someone they don't 
know.

Harold
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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:06:51 -0400
<< Don Starkell's "Paddle to the Arctic" is an interesting study in 
microdecisions
 by a guy trying to paddle the Northwest Passage.  It could have used
editing.
 The author seems both admirable and a little nuts. >>

"Admirable" isn't a word that would have come to my mind.  For a much-better

account (which also might change your description), I highly recommend 
_Kabloona In A. Yellow Kayak_ by Victoria Jason.  Lyrical and inspirational.

Mandatory reading for anyone contemplating a trip with someone they don't 
know.

Harold

------


Agreed on both counts.  He sounded like a real butt hole in Kabloona.  In
Paddle to the Amazon, he didn't seem like he'd gone over the edge yet but he
woould have fist fights with his sons.

Whatever drives the man, you still have to admire him for his single
mindedness.  But you don't have to like him.
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From: Jack Martin <jcmartin43_at_radix.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:45:04 -0400
Anybody ever read a book called "The Doing of the Thing - the Brief 
Brilliant Whitewater Career of Buzz Holmstrom"?  Understand it's 
Pacific Northwest stuff --- figured some of you moldy folks out there 
might have heard of it.  My son raves about it --- but then he has 
interesting and somewhat eclectic tastes in books.

Jack Martin
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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:36:01 EDT
In a message dated 4/7/99 5:37:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com writes about Don Starkell's book _Paddling to the 
Arctic_:

<< Whatever drives the man, you still have to admire him for his single
 mindedness. >>

Sorry, but no I don't.  Blind single-mindedness without concern for basic 
decency, safety and the sanctity of life I never admire.  Too many people die 
or are killed in the name of unworthy goals set by egomaniacs.  

That is a gentleman from whom we could learn much about how *not* to manage a 
group paddle.  When Don and Victoria were traveling together the contrast was 
tremendous.  Don didn't enjoy any of it and was a (self-admittedly) 
miserable, driven human being.  Victoria did just as many miles, took much 
more responsibility for camp chores and the like, and had to put up with Don, 
but she still saw the glory in the land, the water and the people around her, 
deriving much more than hollow macho bragging-rights for the accomplishment 
of a goal.  Victoria returned and did the big miles and heroic deeds solo and 
was both safer and happier without Don.  Don returned and endangered people 
who put their lives on the line to save him from himself.

The best part of _Paddling to the Arctic_ was when the local told Don he was 
sorry Don had survived his first brush with death because it would encourage 
other idiots to go up north, littering their shores with dead bodies (very 
loosely paraphrased).  This from a first-nations gentleman who new the area 
and cared, as all up there seem to, for the welfare of all people in their 
midst.

Off soap box,
Harold 
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From: Steve Jernigan <jernigan_at_chester.uccs.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:09:32 -0600
At 12:36 PM 4/7/99 EDT, HTERVORT_at_aol.com wrote:
>Sorry, but no I don't.  Blind single-mindedness without concern for basic 
>decency, safety and the sanctity of life I never admire.  Too many people
die 
>or are killed in the name of unworthy goals set by egomaniacs.  
>
>That is a gentleman from whom we could learn much about how *not* to
manage a 
>group paddle.  When Don and Victoria were traveling together the contrast
was 
>tremendous.  Don didn't enjoy any of it and was a (self-admittedly) 
>miserable, driven human being.  Victoria did just as many miles, took much 
>more responsibility for camp chores and the like, and had to put up with
Don, 
>but she still saw the glory in the land, the water and the people around
her, 
>deriving much more than hollow macho bragging-rights for the accomplishment 
>of a goal.  Victoria returned and did the big miles and heroic deeds solo
and 
>was both safer and happier without Don.  Don returned and endangered people 
>who put their lives on the line to save him from himself.
>
>The best part of _Paddling to the Arctic_ was when the local told Don he was 
>sorry Don had survived his first brush with death because it would encourage 
>other idiots to go up north, littering their shores with dead bodies (very 
>loosely paraphrased).  This from a first-nations gentleman who new the area 
>and cared, as all up there seem to, for the welfare of all people in their 
>midst.

Amen Harold!
Wise man say: "When head up a__, difficult to smell roses"
ByeBye! S.
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From: Kirby Stevens <stevens_at_islandnet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:01:26 -0700
	I read your note on Don Starkell's book.    I have read both don's book and Victoria Jason's edition of the same trip.   I think your note was quite eloquently put together.    I would not be quite so conservative.   It is people like Don Starkell that give other kayakers bad publicity.

Karen Stevens
Victoria B.C.
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Subject:	Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?

In a message dated 4/7/99 5:37:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com writes about Don Starkell's book _Paddling to the 
Arctic_:

<< Whatever drives the man, you still have to admire him for his single
 mindedness. >>

Sorry, but no I don't.  Blind single-mindedness without concern for basic 
decency, safety and the sanctity of life I never admire.  Too many people die 
or are killed in the name of unworthy goals set by egomaniacs.  

That is a gentleman from whom we could learn much about how *not* to manage a 
group paddle.  When Don and Victoria were traveling together the contrast was 
tremendous.  Don didn't enjoy any of it and was a (self-admittedly) 
miserable, driven human being.  Victoria did just as many miles, took much 
more responsibility for camp chores and the like, and had to put up with Don, 
but she still saw the glory in the land, the water and the people around her, 
deriving much more than hollow macho bragging-rights for the accomplishment 
of a goal.  Victoria returned and did the big miles and heroic deeds solo and 
was both safer and happier without Don.  Don returned and endangered people 
who put their lives on the line to save him from himself.

The best part of _Paddling to the Arctic_ was when the local told Don he was 
sorry Don had survived his first brush with death because it would encourage 
other idiots to go up north, littering their shores with dead bodies (very 
loosely paraphrased).  This from a first-nations gentleman who new the area 
and cared, as all up there seem to, for the welfare of all people in their 
midst.

Off soap box,
Harold 
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From: Alex Ferguson <a.ferguson_at_chem.canterbury.ac.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sea Kayaking Literature?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:19:36 +0000
> Steven Jarvis wrote: 
> 
> A book that I don't think has been mentioned yet is "The
> DreamTime Voyage - Around Australia Odyssey" by Paul
> Caffyn. Published by Kayak Dundee Press in 1994 and 1996,
> ISBN 0-473-02349-0. The book is 186 
> pages long. 

He has also written 3 other books about paddling; around the 
South Island, Stewart Island and the North Island. His first 
one (around the South Island) was the best and as far as I 
know he is about to re-issue it.

Contact him to get the books -

Paul Caffyn
kayakpc_at_xtra.co.nz

Alex
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Electronics Workshop, Chem Dept, Univ of Canterbury
Christchurch, New Zealand
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