All this talk of Kleppers (the foldable vs. hardshell debate) makes me wonder if I'm the only soul with the French version of a foldable. Surely someone has a Nautiraid and, even better, has attached a sail to it. My wife and I are the proud new owners of a Grand Raid with the Balogh Sail kit. Having finally figured out the basic boat assembly, I'm now installing the sail kit. My question has to do with tie down locations for the sheet. I've installed the mast behind the front seat, which means the sheet bridle is attached behind the rear seat to D-rings. Where is a good place to put a cleat or other fastener for the sheet (assuming I'm ever brave enough or foolhardy enough to do anything other than hand hold it)? Thanks in advance, Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Smac2530_at_aol.com wrote: > > All this talk of Kleppers (the foldable vs. hardshell debate) makes me wonder > if I'm the only soul with the French version of a foldable. Surely someone > has a Nautiraid and, even better, has attached a sail to it. I have a single Nautiraid Raid 1 but I do not sail it. Love the boat though! There are a few other Nautiraid owners on this listserver. But maybe they are too busy trying to figure out the assembly instructions that are written in Frenchified English. Things like figuring out what "the basement" is in the kayak" :-) > My wife and I > are the proud new owners of a Grand Raid with the Balogh Sail kit. Having > finally figured out the basic boat assembly, I'm now installing the sail kit. > My question has to do with tie down locations for the sheet. I've installed > the mast behind the front seat, which means the sheet bridle is attached > behind the rear seat to D-rings. Where is a good place to put a cleat or > other fastener for the sheet (assuming I'm ever brave enough or foolhardy > enough to do anything other than hand hold it)? You should get that info from the horse's mouth. The horse is Mark Balogh himself. I believe his email address is batwing_at_kerrlake.com. My understanding is that you do want a sheeting point. What I have seen is a line tied to the rudder bracket area with a pully about two feet from the rudder bracket and the sheet goes through that pully; i.e. the pully is the sheeting point. But my memory is sketchy on that. You most definitely do not want to put a cleat behind you though; that could be disastrous. So talk to Mark. ralph -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Hello all - My first paddling of 1999 was last weekend, just a little 3 miler up and down my local coast, Casco Bay, in a little bit of chop. It was a gray, cold, windy day - but it was invigorating just to be out on the water. Tried out my new Greenland paddle for the first time and liked it enormously. As I have never learned how to paddle feathered, not *such* a big adjustment -- indeed, a pleasure..... Second trip of the year was today, another 3 miles up and down someone else's coast (Harpswell Neck). It was a sunny, cold, windy afternoon. Forecast was for winds to be lessening in the afternoon, but winds were, in fact, rising from 10 to 20 knots. Did we turn around and go home? No, we did not, even though the boats were nearly blown out of our hands when we were lifting them off the car. Sitting still in the boat, or paddling lightly, facing the wind, you moved backwards. So it was perhaps more of a workout than I had in mind, but fun nonetheless. It felt good to taste salt spray again. I find I am enjoying the Greenland paddle more each time I use it - it's easy, it's light, I like the feel of it in my hands, I like holding the end of the paddle to do a sweep.....it just makes me happy to use it, and to look at it......I guess I've found my paddle! Happy paddling, Anne Burton *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Steve, No, you are not the only Nautiraid lover! I had one for several years. I also had a Balogh sail rig with a hardshell double. The Nauiraid is considered to best the best folding sailboat because the inflatable sponsons are right at the waterline for increased stability (Klepper sponsons are higher, and are used merely to tighten the skin and frame). Did you get the inflatable tear drop shaped pontoons with the Balogh rig? They help in heavier winds, but I hear that the Nautiraid does not even need them. Per you question about cleats, I think you would want to install two - one on the port (left) and one on the starboard (right) sides of the boat - that way you can tie off while tacking on either side of the wind. I think the cleats should be placed slightly in front of you on either side. Remember, there is no right or wrong to this kind of thing. Just sail for a while with a marker, and mark the most appropriate place for a cleat based on real experiences. Please bear in mind that you do need to be careful cleating a small boat. If you start to turn over, the first thing you need to do is to release all lines and let the boat righten itself. So from which dealer did you purchase the boat? How does it paddle? How comfortable are those new inflatable seats? Enjoy your new toy. - Scott Ives - Scott Smac2530_at_aol.com wrote: > > All this talk of Kleppers (the foldable vs. hardshell debate) makes me wonder > if I'm the only soul with the French version of a foldable. Surely someone > has a Nautiraid and, even better, has attached a sail to it. My wife and I > are the proud new owners of a Grand Raid with the Balogh Sail kit. Having > finally figured out the basic boat assembly, I'm now installing the sail kit. > My question has to do with tie down locations for the sheet. I've installed > the mast behind the front seat, which means the sheet bridle is attached > behind the rear seat to D-rings. Where is a good place to put a cleat or > other fastener for the sheet (assuming I'm ever brave enough or foolhardy > enough to do anything other than hand hold it)? > > Thanks in advance, > Steve > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** -- Scott Ives ssives_at_erols.com - avid father, husband, photographer, kayaker, jet skier and Mustang Cobra convertible owner *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Scott: Thanks for your comments. I did end up getting the BOSS outriggers -- figured they would help keep me out of trouble during the learning curve. I am not a sailor, so have alot to learn. I liked your comment about using a marker when out on the water to mark a comfortable place, but won't a cleat interfere with the deck should I decide to put it on? "So from which dealer did you purchase the boat? How does it paddle? How comfortable are those new inflatable seats?" Purchased it from Larry of Baidarka Boats in Sitka, AK. Could not have asked for a more knowledgable and service oriented supplier. I can't say enough good things about them. As to the boat's performance, it remains to be seen. We're finally thawed out here in Michigan, so I should know soon. The seats seem like they'll be comfortable, but that is based on a quick sit on land. They can be inflated to variable degrees to maximize your comfort, so I'm hopeful. I'll let you know for sure after we've put them to the test. My wife and I have paddled hardshell singles (VCP Skerrays) in the past, so we have to learn to paddle together too (might be tougher than learning to sail!). Thanks again, Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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