Columbia Sportswear made a windpant in the early 90's that was extremely lightweight (say .75 oz.) rip-stop nylon in a bright fluorescent color that quickly faded to pastel. It was so light it was like wearing nothing at all, yet mosquitos would not bite through it. Soft, breathable fabric-- a lot like silk. Didn't sell. The public wants cotton. Or heavier, more durable nylon for wind pants. I should have bought a case of them while I had the chance... Anyway, I think a suit made of lightweight ripstop would stop the bugs without being uncomfortably warm in hot weather or during exertion. But I can't find the fabric on the internet or anywhere. It must be uncoated. Anybody know a source? As for bug netting, it's cool enough over shorts on a hot Arctic day, but you have to use deet anyway to keep the mosquitos from biting through the netting. If they would just make the netting from cotton, it could be soaked in deet, avoiding constant application of carcinogenic deet to the skin. Nylon soaked in deet loses its repellant power quickly, as there is no reservoir in the fabric. There are some people whom bugs simply will not bite. Perhaps if science could figure out what chemical they've got in their skin, we could solve this problem once and for all. Doug Montgomery San Francisco *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
DMon707_at_aol.com wrote: > > Columbia Sportswear made a windpant in the early 90's that was extremely > lightweight (say .75 oz.) rip-stop nylon [snip] > mosquitos would not bite through it. [snip] > Anyway, I think a suit made of lightweight ripstop would stop the bugs > without being uncomfortably warm in hot weather or during exertion. But I > can't find the fabric on the internet or anywhere. It must be uncoated. > Anybody know a source? Try: Penny Schwyn <pschwyn_at_nextdim.com> She does alterations on wet suits and the like and seems knowledgeable about fabric sources. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 04:17 PM 4/11/99 EDT, DMon707_at_aol.com wrote: > There are some people whom bugs simply will not bite. Perhaps if >science could figure out what chemical they've got in their skin, we could >solve this problem once and for all. I have found that skeeters much prefer M'ladys tender flesh to my nasty ol' hide, thus all I have to do is assure that she is exposing enough of her succulent epidermis to feed the hoards ;-> and I am not bothered. Seriously tho, I loathe having chemicals on my skin. I can barely tolerate sunscreen, and will resort to insect repellant only as an absolute last resort. If the little bastards are really bad, I simply cover up. My goretex shell jacket works great, but is sometimes a bit warm. Yesterday, I bagged by first confirmed kill of the season, and so was wondering if anyone on the list could recommend a really good bug jacket or hood. ByeBye! S. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
The best way to use the bug suits is to spray them with permethrin. That makes them very effective. -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net] On Behalf Of DMon707_at_aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 11, 1999 4:17 PM To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: [Paddlewise] Bug protection Columbia Sportswear made a windpant in the early 90's that was extremely lightweight (say .75 oz.) rip-stop nylon in a bright fluorescent color that quickly faded to pastel. It was so light it was like wearing nothing at all, yet mosquitos would not bite through it. Soft, breathable fabric-- a lot like silk. Didn't sell. The public wants cotton. Or heavier, more durable nylon for wind pants. I should have bought a case of them while I had the chance... Anyway, I think a suit made of lightweight ripstop would stop the bugs without being uncomfortably warm in hot weather or during exertion. But I can't find the fabric on the internet or anywhere. It must be uncoated. Anybody know a source? As for bug netting, it's cool enough over shorts on a hot Arctic day, but you have to use deet anyway to keep the mosquitos from biting through the netting. If they would just make the netting from cotton, it could be soaked in deet, avoiding constant application of carcinogenic deet to the skin. Nylon soaked in deet loses its repellant power quickly, as there is no reservoir in the fabric. There are some people whom bugs simply will not bite. Perhaps if science could figure out what chemical they've got in their skin, we could solve this problem once and for all. Doug Montgomery San Francisco *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
when in minnesota [where the state bird is a mosquito], i used the bug hats & jackets we got at ?sp? pirigas?? we were offered $100 for our head nets by the end of the week!! mark On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Steve Jernigan wrote: [snip] > works great, but is sometimes a bit warm. Yesterday, I bagged by first > confirmed kill of the season, and so was wondering if anyone on the list > could recommend a really good bug jacket or hood. > ByeBye! S. ps, come up our way saturday for a paddle!! #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: Nothing pains some people more than having to think. --Martin Luther King, Jr. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Here is the Bug Tamer... good stuff! http://www.outdoors-net.com/shannon/catalog.html - Karen Hancock San Clemente, CA magpi_at_access1.net 949/487-2602 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bug Tamer looks like the stuff my Dad has. Hopefully this is my birthday presents. I really fed the local squeeters taking pictures last your in some Florida swamps...... Later... Dan McCarty *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 03:43 PM 4/12/99 -0400, dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com wrote: > > >Bug Tamer looks like the stuff my Dad has. Hopefully this is my birthday >presents. I really fed the local squeeters taking pictures last your in >some Florida swamps...... > >Later... >Dan McCarty > Everything has to eat. give a little. Bug tamer is what I have , it is expensive $60-$70 for the shirt and then you have to buy the pants separate BUT worth every penny. I was sitting in a swamp leaning against a stump for several hours and could not hear a thang cause all them skeeters buzzing. Then came along a couple of dragon flies and in ten minutes they ate all those skeeters. Then they would lite on me and wait for some more to come along and zap they were ate. This went on for several hours till I left the swamp with all my blood still in my body. Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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