I knew this tent thread would finally get to the use of a hammock. In my former life I was a serious mountain hiker-peak bagger in the N.E. The Adirondaks of N.Y. are sometimes refered to as a vertical swamp with very little dry horzontal space for a tent. This problem has been solved by a co. in Vermont with a hammock that they developed for low impact camping. This is not your normal hammock!! I first used mine on a trailess peak assent and ended up the day too high on the mt. to be able to find any flat area. (no place for a tent) All that was needed was a couple of trees The hammock is two layers of nylon with nylon rope at each end. The top sheet of nylon has netting on the top half. You crawl into the hammock like a sleeping bag. The top sheet is lifted off your face with a cord that runs from the top sheet to another cord that runs between the trees above the hammock. This second cord also supports a rain fly that is draped over it and the hammock and is anchored to the ground "A frame" style. This setup can be used wherever two tree are close together. I have used it during violent thunder storms and never got wet. The ground below was a river and would have drowned any tent. When not sleeping I use the hammock as a seat and can cook under the fly while its raining and be quite comfortable. A thermarest pad makes sleeping very warm and comfortable. This hammock opens many more possibilities for camping while paddling and never have to worry about making the next camp site. Another plus has been not camping near others with their noise and the attraction of bears has been reduced. The hammock is dry, bug free and light weight. hammock and fly under 4#. Need more specifics, E-Mail me. Larry C. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Larry wrote: >I knew this tent thread would finally get to the use of a hammock....snip many years ago I fell asleep accidentally, in a hammock. It was a terrible experience. When you camp with a hammock does it get stretched tight enough so that you can actually lay flat. Say, flat enough to lay on your stomach? That one experience turned me off to hammocks but perhaps it was just a seventies macramé thing? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>many years ago I fell asleep accidentally, in a hammock. It was a terrible >experience. When you camp with a hammock does it get stretched tight enough >so that you can actually lay flat. Say, flat enough to lay on your stomach? >That one experience turned me off to hammocks but perhaps it was just a >seventies macramé thing? I've got one of those military type hammocks with the rain fly and mosquito netting and I've found it pretty tough to deal with. Can you sleep on your stomach? I don't think so. If you stretched it that tight I think it would be almost impossible to stay in it because of your high center of gravity. It's bad enough with a moderate sag. In fact, the first time I used it I rolled over, only to have the entire thing capsize and I couldn't find the zipper to extricate myself. (OK, alcohol may have been involved) I thought I might have to use the leatherman knife funtion to save myself. I guess you'd have to have been there to appreciate this scene! :) Another problem with this model is that you need lots of things to tie off to so the rain fly can be supported. About the only use I have for it is camping in dense timber where no ground can be cleared - then it's just right. Unfortunately, because it is made of heavy canvas, it doesn't really roll up as tight and lightweight as a moder 3 man tent. Pretty much of a dissapointment all around. Jeff Pritts - Decatur, Il tito_at_midwest.net COG #2190 HSTA #7752 Black 92 Concours "SR-71" (for sale) Kayaker Wannabe *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I just tuned into the hammock thread. Am wondering how you all are sleeping in your hammocks. We spent a month in the Yucatan 23 years ago. When we bought our hammocks, were told to sleep across the length of the hammock... which proved to be much more stable than laying with the length, and even comfortable. I recall "campgrounds" that provided shelter with hammock hooks, even a few hotel rooms were equipped with hooks. Karen jeff pritts wrote: > > >many years ago I fell asleep accidentally, in a hammock. It was a terrible > >experience. When you camp with a hammock does it get stretched tight enough > >so that you can actually lay flat. Say, flat enough to lay on your stomach? > >That one experience turned me off to hammocks but perhaps it was just a > >seventies macramé thing? > > I've got one of those military type hammocks with the rain fly and mosquito > netting and I've found it pretty tough to deal with. Can you sleep on your > stomach? I don't think so. If you stretched it that tight I think it would > be almost impossible to stay in it because of your high center of gravity. > It's bad enough with a moderate sag. In fact, the first time I used it I > rolled over, only to have the entire thing capsize and I couldn't find the > zipper to extricate myself. (OK, alcohol may have been involved) I thought I > might have to use the leatherman knife funtion to save myself. I guess you'd > have to have been there to appreciate this scene! :) > > Another problem with this model is that you need lots of things to tie off > to so the rain fly can be supported. About the only use I have for it is > camping in dense timber where no ground can be cleared - then it's just > right. Unfortunately, because it is made of heavy canvas, it doesn't really > roll up as tight and lightweight as a moder 3 man tent. Pretty much of a > dissapointment all around. > > Jeff Pritts - Decatur, Il > tito_at_midwest.net > COG #2190 HSTA #7752 > Black 92 Concours "SR-71" (for sale) > Kayaker Wannabe > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** -- Karen Hancock San Clemente, CA magpi_at_access1.net 949/487-2602 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Karen wrote: >I just tuned into the hammock thread. Am wondering how you all are >sleeping in your hammocks. >We spent a month in the Yucatan 23 years ago. When we bought our >hammocks, were told to sleep across the length of the hammock... Doh! Such a simple idea...so elusive thanks jim *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 09:23 AM 4/28/99 -0400, Jim Champoux wrote: >Larry wrote: > >>I knew this tent thread would finally get to the use of a hammock....snip > >many years ago I fell asleep accidentally, in a hammock. It was a terrible >experience. When you camp with a hammock does it get stretched tight enough >so that you can actually lay flat. Say, flat enough to lay on your stomach? >That one experience turned me off to hammocks but perhaps it was just a >seventies macramé thing? I've been told the "correct" way to sleep in a hammock is crossways rather than lengthwise. This eliminates most of the sag and will keep you from rolling out. Fairly comfortable with both the Ms and I in a large fishnet sorta hammock we tried in a (believe-it-or-not) hammock store last year. As I recall we were a bit deterred by the $250 pricetag tho. . . I'd forgotten about it til this thread, but it would seem to be a reasonably simple DIY project for someone with a sewing machine. Now where's that bolt of rip-stop? ByeBye! S *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:35:01 -0600 Steve Jernigan <jernigan_at_chester.uccs.edu> writes: >At 09:23 AM 4/28/99 -0400, Jim Champoux wrote: >>Larry wrote: >> >>>I knew this tent thread would finally get to the use of a >hammock....snip >> At 6'4" I have the same problem with most tents as I do with hammocks...hmmm, even sleeping bags, kayaks, canoes, and pirogues for that matter ......I don't fit them real well without a "bit of discomfort". I still must paddle AND sleep however. For me using a hammock kinda fits in with all the other challenges of kayak touring-camping. Techniques for staying dry-warm-fed-etc. Techniques for avoiding weather-hazzards-wildlife threats-etc. Techniques for staying comfortable in a dynamic environment .....I am accustomed to sleeping corner to corner (which makes for some odd tent orientation at times...) in a 2 person pop-up. I have used a hammock many times....mostly for naps and resting up. All night can become uncomfortable at times ......HOWEVER, IMHO there is no finer way to enjoy a creek bank or a shaded willow section of beach than from the gentle sway of a hammock with the ice chest and a can of salted peanuts within easy reach .........Ahhhhhh, life is good .........Peyton (Louisiana) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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