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From: Larry Koenig <paddlin_at_home.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:25:00 -0500
You might also check out: 
www.waterproofcharts.com

Larry Koenig

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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:02:43 -0500
Check out http://maps.nrcan.gc.ca/fact_sheets/tyvek.html.

Chuck Holst


 -----Original Message-----
From: Evan Dallas [mailto:Evan_Dallas_at_NOTES.NTRS.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 8:24 PM
To: PaddleWise
Subject: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek

Does anyone know if nautical charts printed on Tyvek (that practically
indestructible stuff some envelopes are made of) are available?  For
Canada?  I thought I had heard somewhere that this was being used, tho I
could have dreamt it...
(I'm tired of my charts falling apart after a season or two).

Evan

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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 21:47:56 -0400
Chuck Holst wrote:

> Check out http://maps.nrcan.gc.ca/fact_sheets/tyvek.html.
>
> Chuck Holst
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Evan Dallas [mailto:Evan_Dallas_at_NOTES.NTRS.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 8:24 PM
> To: PaddleWise
> Subject: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
>
> Does anyone know if nautical charts printed on Tyvek (that practically
> indestructible stuff some envelopes are made of) are available?  For
> Canada?  I thought I had heard somewhere that this was being used, tho I
> could have dreamt it...
> (I'm tired of my charts falling apart after a season or two).

Interesting - I've heard they resisted printing navigation charts on Tyvek in
the past because they didn't want them to last long.  If they do last, folks don't
replace them and they get out of date (navigation charts change more
frequently than topos).  I certainly would prefer waterproof versions.

Mike

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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:42:43 -0400
FWIW the NY-NJ Trails Council has been printing its hiking maps on Tyvek
since the '80s.  I have some of that age that are in almost new shape....

>Does anyone know if nautical charts printed on Tyvek (that practically
>indestructible stuff some envelopes are made of) are available?  For
>Canada?  I thought I had heard somewhere that this was being used, tho I
>could have dreamt it...
>(I'm tired of my charts falling apart after a season or two).
>

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From: Shawn Baker <scoobybaker_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:10:13 MDT
I tried cutting some 8 1/2" x 11" pieces of Tyvek and feeding them through 
my laser printer.  It's not as stiff as paper, so every 3rd sheet jammed.  
Once printed, though, whatever you print is really waterproof, but 
disappointingly, not wear-proof.  Once you crinkle the paper a time or two, 
the toner just flakes off.

I suppose a copier would have the same results--unless a copier heats the 
toner more than an inkjet does, and maybe the print would be more 
long-lasting.  I don't think an inkjet printer would do well either, as inks 
are water-based, and Tyvek is waterproof.

Shawn Baker
still searching for an economical waterproof chart system

Evan Dallas wrote:
>Does anyone know if nautical charts printed on Tyvek (that >practically 
>indestructible stuff some envelopes are made of) are >available?  For 
>Canada?  I thought I had heard somewhere that this >was being used, tho I 
>could have dreamt it...
>(I'm tired of my charts falling apart after a season or two).



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From: Hal Levine <hlevin_at_jlc.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek an alternative
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:24:03 -0400
An OK solution is to copy your charts on mylar (overhead transparency
material).  It is indestructible.  You can rinse them in fresh water and dry
them off and use them over and over again.  You can also easily make copies for
others in your group.  I am not sure what and/or how many copy write laws this
method breaks but it works well.  I just put the sheet under my deck bungie and
I have black lines over the light green of my deck.
    Hal
    Wilton, NH
    Power your boat with carbohydrates,
    not hydrocarbons.
    http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin


Shawn Baker wrote:

> I tried cutting some 8 1/2" x 11" pieces of Tyvek and feeding them through
> my laser printer.  It's not as stiff as paper, so every 3rd sheet jammed.
> Once printed, though, whatever you print is really waterproof, but
> disappointingly, not wear-proof.  Once you crinkle the paper a time or two,
> the toner just flakes off.
>
> I suppose a copier would have the same results--unless a copier heats the
> toner more than an inkjet does, and maybe the print would be more
> long-lasting.  I don't think an inkjet printer would do well either, as inks
> are water-based, and Tyvek is waterproof.
>
> Shawn Baker
> still searching for an economical waterproof chart system
>
> Evan Dallas wrote:
> >Does anyone know if nautical charts printed on Tyvek (that >practically
> >indestructible stuff some envelopes are made of) are >available?  For
> >Canada?  I thought I had heard somewhere that this >was being used, tho I
> >could have dreamt it...
> >(I'm tired of my charts falling apart after a season or two).
>
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    Hal
    Wilton, NH

    Power your boat with carbohydrates,
    not hydrocarbons.
    http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin


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From: Erik Sprenne <sprenne_at_netnitco.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:49:51 -0400
Shawn Baker  wrote:
> I tried cutting some 8 1/2" x 11" pieces of Tyvek and feeding them
through 
> my laser printer.  It's not as stiff as paper, so every 3rd sheet jammed.
 
> Once printed, though, whatever you print is really waterproof, but 
> disappointingly, not wear-proof.  Once you crinkle the paper a time or
two, 
> the toner just flakes off.
> snip <
> still searching for an economical waterproof chart system
> 
> Evan Dallas wrote:
> >Does anyone know if nautical charts printed on Tyvek (that >practically 
> >indestructible stuff some envelopes are made of) are >available?  For 
> >Canada?  I thought I had heard somewhere that this >was being used, tho
I 
> >could have dreamt it...
> >(I'm tired of my charts falling apart after a season or two).
> 

this suggestion is subsidized by my employer <grin>
bring your charts to work, photocopy the appropriate parts, and laminate
them.


Erik Sprenne
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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:33:58 -0400
I suspect that the tyvek is coated with some form of water repellent finish.

cya

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[mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Shawn Baker
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 1:10 PM
To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net
Cc: Evan_Dallas_at_NOTES.NTRS.COM; dkruger_at_pacifier.com
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek


I tried cutting some 8 1/2" x 11" pieces of Tyvek and feeding them through 
my laser printer.  It's not as stiff as paper, so every 3rd sheet jammed.  
Once printed, though, whatever you print is really waterproof, but 
disappointingly, not wear-proof.  Once you crinkle the paper a time or two, 
the toner just flakes off.

I suppose a copier would have the same results--unless a copier heats the 
toner more than an inkjet does, and maybe the print would be more 
long-lasting.  I don't think an inkjet printer would do well either, as inks

are water-based, and Tyvek is waterproof.

Shawn Baker
still searching for an economical waterproof chart system

Evan Dallas wrote:
>Does anyone know if nautical charts printed on Tyvek (that >practically 
>indestructible stuff some envelopes are made of) are >available?  For 
>Canada?  I thought I had heard somewhere that this >was being used, tho I 
>could have dreamt it...
>(I'm tired of my charts falling apart after a season or two).



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From: Shawn Baker <scoobybaker_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:05:20 MDT
>Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:49:51 -0400
>From: "Erik Sprenne" <sprenne_at_netnitco.net>
>Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Charts on Tyvek
>
>Shawn Baker  wrote:
>>I tried cutting some 8 1/2" x 11" pieces of Tyvek and feeding them
>>through my laser printer.  It's not as stiff as paper, so every 3rd >sheet 
>>jammed.
>
>>Once printed, though, whatever you print is really waterproof, but
>>disappointingly, not wear-proof.  Once you crinkle the paper a time >> or 
>>two, the toner just flakes off.

>this suggestion is subsidized by my employer <grin>
>bring your charts to work, photocopy the appropriate parts, and >laminate 
>them.
>
>
>Erik Sprenne


Okay, so how do I convince MY employer to buy a laminater?

Shawn :)


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