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From: Clyde Sisler <clyde_sisler_at_email.msn.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Dry suit storage
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:54:02 -0400
Are there any problems in storing a Gortex dry suit rolled up in a ball?  I
plan on taking it out every couple of weeks (at least), airing it out,
303'ing the gaskets, maybe even using it if the water's cold enough.

Before rolling the suit into a plastic bag, it will be throughly rinsed in
fresh water and dried.  The only problem that occurs to me is mildew because
of humidity and that could occur anyway.

This is a worst case scenerio.  If the water's cold enough I may be wearing
it everyday.

Thanx for the input.

Clyde Sisler
http://csisler.com




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From: <aburton1_at_maine.rr.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Vinalhaven, Maine
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:35:48 -0400
Anyone have any good paddling spots to recommend on 
Vinalhaven?  Dangers to avoid?  Put-ins?  Sights to see?  
I will be going this weekend and have already consulted 
the chart and the MITA guide; I am looking for local and/or 
first-hand recommendations.

Thanks!
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From: Nick Schade <schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Vinalhaven, Maine
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:03:15 -0400
The shop in Vinalhaven has good icecream. This is the most important
information I can think of.
Nick

At 3:35 PM -0400 6/9/99, aburton1_at_maine.rr.com wrote:
>Anyone have any good paddling spots to recommend on
>Vinalhaven?  Dangers to avoid?  Put-ins?  Sights to see?
>I will be going this weekend and have already consulted
>the chart and the MITA guide; I am looking for local and/or
>first-hand recommendations.
>
>Thanks!
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Nick Schade
Guillemot Kayaks
10 Ash Swamp Rd
Glastonbury, CT 06033
(860) 659-8847

Schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com
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>>>>"It's not just Art, It's a Craft!"<<<<


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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry suit storage
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:39:03 -0700
Clyde Sisler wrote:
> 
> Are there any problems in storing a Gortex dry suit rolled up in a ball?  I
> plan on taking it out every couple of weeks (at least), airing it out,
> 303'ing the gaskets, maybe even using it if the water's cold enough.

Might be a problem.  At the end of about 3 seasons of use I had a Goretex
Kokatat drytop fail at the outside edges of the seam tape -- developed many
tiny leaks along that line.  Shipped it off to Kokatat, and they replaced it
for the cost of the seals.  (A really good deal, I thought -- I had used the
thing a lot.)

The Kokatat people were a little mystified about the failure and queried me
about my use.  One of the questions was:  "When you are not wearing the
drytop, how do you store it."  Naturally, on longer trips where I do not need
it continuously, it sits in a stuff sack below decks, or rolled up behind me,
ready for use.  They *speculated* that excessive crinkling had made the PTFE
film fail.

Since then, I have avoided storage tightly packed, and the 3 (!) of these
things I own have survived another 3 seasons plus, and are still OK.

BTW, I just rinse the things each day, even with salt water, to avoid salt
buildup, which is supposedly the reason sometimes a Goretex garment will quit
breathing.  (They recommend a fresh water rinse after use, but salt is OK.)  I
have NEVER laundered the paddle jackets since I bought them -- to avoid
wasting the DWR coating.

I'd take the thing out of its bag at night and let it flop around in the
cockpit.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Dry suit storage
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:48:43 -0400
> I'd take the thing out of its bag at night and let it flop around in the
cockpit.

It would have spent most of the time in the back of a pickup with a cap on
it.  Now that I think about it, it's going to get pretty hot in there.  That
probably won't be a good thing for the seals and such.

I guess I can take it along on day trips whether I use it or not and hang it
out to air & dry at night.  I don't think I can do that on a multi-day trip
though unless I plan on wearing it.  It would just take up too much room.
In that case, I think I'd just lay it out flat on the truck bed and put
other clothes and stuff on top to protect it from some of the direct heat.

Thanx for the input!

Clyde - 5 days and counting!

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From: Barbara Kossy <bkossy_at_igc.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry suit storage
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:14:11
It's better to hang it, or fold it loosely with all zippers open (to avoid
compression). Why roll it in a ball? Do you have a severe storage problem?
Maybe you should take that old business suit out of the closet, roll that
in a ball and put it in a bag, and hang the more useful drysuit in its place.
Barbara



At 02:54 PM 6/9/99 -0400, Clyde Sisler wrote:
>Are there any problems in storing a Gortex dry suit rolled up in a ball?  I
>plan on taking it out every couple of weeks (at least), airing it out,
>303'ing the gaskets, maybe even using it if the water's cold enough.
>
>Before rolling the suit into a plastic bag, it will be throughly rinsed in
>fresh water and dried.  The only problem that occurs to me is mildew because
>of humidity and that could occur anyway.
>
>This is a worst case scenerio.  If the water's cold enough I may be wearing
>it everyday.
>
>Thanx for the input.
>
>Clyde Sisler
>http://csisler.com
>
>
>
>
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