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From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] Pepper Spray
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:56:44 -0700
>  When it touched me it felt as though someone had poured
gasoline into my eyes and >  then lit them on fire. I can't
begin to imagine getting a full dose.

I saw three cops spraying a very beligerent wino in the face
from real close while two more were whacking his knees with
batons and the wino was questioning their verility in very
loud and unflattering terms. He would not go down. But
hopefully most bears are less obstreperous than that.




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From: <dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Pepper Spray
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:13:33 -0400
|I saw three cops spraying a very beligerent wino in the face
|from real close while two more were whacking his knees with
|batons and the wino was questioning their verility in very
|loud and unflattering terms. He would not go down. But
|hopefully most bears are less obstreperous than that.

People react to force whether it is getting whacked with a baton, pepper spray
or getting shot in very different ways.  This is especially true if the person
has mental problems and/or is on drugs.

If the spray was in the face covering the wino's eyes, nose and mouth his body
is going to react.  His eyes should close and he should have some problems with
getting enough air to keep on fighting.  BUT, that does not mean the person
won't keep on causing problems and can still be dangerous.

Later....
Dan McCarty



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