Re: [Paddlewise] more on JFK Jr.

> From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
 
> This is chilling.  I had a backchannel discussion with Ralph and Jackie Fenton
> about whether stuff we post here is protected from unwanted extraction by the
> popular press (etc.).  I believe the consensus was we were.  Guess not.

I'm not sure I understand... consensus where?  (I wrote Dave that anything
you write or say on the internet or otherwise, can and has been forwarded
elsewhere regardless of the policy on PaddleWise that states that the author's 
permission should be asked first).  I think most folks that submit messages to 
the internet realize it's difficult to control that and there are people out
there that are more interested in being the first to "spread the word" than
waiting for permission to forward a message to another forum.  I also believe
that forwarding articles or stories without permission is copyright violation.

> Those of us who are small fish in the pond should be glad for our low
> profile.  Ralph and other folks who are more well-known have just discovered
> another avenue of exposure for them.

Usually, those in higher profile have been aware for some time about having
their words quoted or misquoted whether written or otherwise.  Fortunately, in
this case it appears that Ralph was quoted verbatum.  I'm impressed.  And
I'm surprised.  Who was the author, Ralph?  

This could be a plus regarding this medium... that whatever you say here
is a record and misquotes can be easily pointed out.  So the quoter must be
accurate or they risk looking like a fool.

> This really hacks me off!  

It does me, too.

> I greatly value the informal nature of the
> exchanges we make here, and feel we have built up a culture (many thanks to
> the listmom, who has managed us well ...8-) ) in which respect for the other
> person's point of view, and tolerance for honest differences, is the norm.  I
> highly value the access we enjoy to the various knowledgeable people here.
> 
> If we have to worry that some two-bit flack will scoop up our incidental
> ramblings as a "public" utterance, some of our discourse will diminish.
> 
> I'm worried about this.  I have some liability exposure, owing to my
> profession and my experience with chemicals.  I suspect I will be much more
> circumspect anytime someone makes an informal query re:  solvents, materials,
> and the like.
> 
> What do you say, listmom?  Am I overreacting?

That's for you to decide.  Some people are very passionate about not having
their words appear somewhere they didn't intend for them to appear.  So
they would not think you are over-reacting.  I think you are right to be
concerned or angered about having your words forwarded to another public 
forum without your permission.  

Not much you can do except stop posting (I don't intend to) or just accept
that what you write may appear elsewhere.  

Maybe I should include the policy on the PaddleWise trailer.  A copyright
notice.

Cheers,

Jackie


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