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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Tsunami Experiences
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:56:47 -0800
Off the list Shawn Baker and I were discussing tsunamis when the question came
to mind:  who out there has actually experienced a tsunami?  Even though I
have lived on the west coast almost all my life, I have never seen one!

Anecdotes?

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Reeves, Debbie (Debbie) <"Reeves,>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Tsunami Experiences
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:55:37 -0500
> ----------
> From: 	Dave Kruger[SMTP:dkruger_at_pacifier.com]
> 
> who out there has actually experienced a tsunami?  Even though I
> have lived on the west coast almost all my life, I have never seen one!
> 
	This past year the Discovery Channel had a program on tsunamis.  I
tuned in and learned some very interesting facts (i.e. tsunamis top the list
of natural disaters for the number of lives it takes-interesting because
they are somewhat of a rarity) but was disappointed that there has never
been one photographed.  All the program showed was the trail of destruction
after the fact and eye-witness accounts.  Since they are caused by
earthquakes occuring deep in the ocean, they can be identified and tracked
yet noone has dropped a remote camera in the area or stood on a mountain top
with a video camera in the location where it comes ashore.  

	Debbie Reeves
	Sandy Hook, NJ
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From: <dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Tsunami Experiences
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:45:56 -0500
> ----------
> From:   Dave Kruger[SMTP:dkruger_at_pacifier.com]
>
> who out there has actually experienced a tsunami?  Even though I
> have lived on the west coast almost all my life, I have never seen one!
>
|    This past year the Discovery Channel had a program on tsunamis.  I
|tuned in and learned some very interesting facts (i.e. tsunamis top the
list
|of natural disaters for the number of lives it takes-interesting because
|they are somewhat of a rarity) but was disappointed that there has never
|been one photographed.  All the program showed was the trail of
destruction
|after the fact and eye-witness accounts.  Since they are caused by
|earthquakes occuring deep in the ocean, they can be identified and tracked
|yet noone has dropped a remote camera in the area or stood on a mountain
top
|with a video camera in the location where it comes ashore.

|    Debbie Reeves

There is a show floating around either on Discovery, TLC or AandE that has
footage of a Tsunmai hitting Japan.  You can see the water moving OUT to
sea and then shortly there after a frothing white wave moving back toward
shore.  Its not an Hawaii 5-O type of wave just a tall single wave.  Maybe
6 feet tall.  But very steep.  The footage shows the wave moving into the
harbor and tossing  fishing boats around like a rubber ducky in a tub.
There are some shots of one boat trying to manuever in the harbor and not
having much luck against the water which at this point was rebounding of
docks and jetties.  Very ugly.

There are some still pictures of a Tsuanmi hitting Hawii back in the
40s/50s?  I think in Hawaii some people were killed when they thought the
wave was not going to arrive and they saw the water leave the harbor.  Cool
they said......

If you see the water start to flow away from shore, this is not a good
thing!  8-)  One had better find some high ground.  Quickly!  8-)

Hope this helps....
Dan McCarty





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From: <WILAX_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami Experiences
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:49:53 EST
Dave,

I have a mental picture of a Tsunami tens of feet tall crashing through a 
coastal village.  
Some time ago I was sailing as a radio officer aboard a container ship.  It 
was my first shipping experience in the Pacific.  One afternoon (off the 
coast of Japan) I copied, via Morse Code, a warning signal followed by 
"tsunami warning".  Fearing a devastating wall of water (possibly accompanied 
by Godzilla's appearance) I intently copied the broadcast that followed...... 
-.-. --.-  - - -  - - -  - - - 

The warning specified a Tsunami of height 10 Centimeters ....about 5 inches.  
I was somewhat disappointed to say the least I thought we were in for a real 
adventure. We may or may not have experienced a Tsunami but it was hard to 
tell as seas commonly were 10 to 20 feet in the North Pacific during the 
winter.  In any event, it was interesting to learn that the wave was not 
necessarily a huge event.  But a quick change of tide totaling 5 inches could 
certainly break mooring lines of ships moored to a pier, strand a fisherman 
that had ventured to the end of a jetty or wash your precious kayak away from 
the beach during the camping trip. 

Many more Tsunami warnings were copied during my stint out there.  I never 
did see Godzilla.

Tom 
Rhode Island 
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From: <Bluecanoe2_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tsunami Experiences
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:00:27 EST
In a message dated 11/11/1999 4:10:18 PM Central Standard Time, WILAX_at_aol.com 
writes:

<<  But a quick change of tide totaling 5 inches could 
 certainly break mooring lines of ships moored to a pier, strand a fisherman 
 that had ventured to the end of a jetty or wash your precious kayak away 
from 
 the beach during the camping trip. 
 
 Many more Tsunami warnings were copied during my stint out there.  I never 
 did see Godzilla.
 
 Tom 
 Rhode Island  >>

A Tsunami wave in the middle of the ocean might not be more than 5 inches 
high and would not be noticed, but as the wave approaches shore, it rebounds 
off the bottom and the amplitude increases tremendously.  Also they travel at 
a very high rate of speed.  This slows down a lot when the wave cycle 
contacts the bottom and friction has an effect on the wave.

This does not lessen the destructive capability though.

As to movie or video footage of them, when I taught school we had a movie 
that had a short film clip taken by an amateur photographer aboard a ship.  
He was filming his friend on the dock waving to him when it hit.  All hell 
broke loose, the camera continued to roll and the friend disappeared.  After 
the water from the wave receded, you could see the destruction to the wharf 
area.  The friend was nowhere to be found.

I wish I had a reference to the production company or the name of the film 
but I don't recall it.

       John LeBlanc
            O           
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Bluecanoe2_at_aol.com
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