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From: John Waddington <waddinj_at_recorder.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Thunder Bay ON
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:14:30 -0500
I am looking to contact anyone on the list who is living in
Thunder Bay, ON, Canada. I am looking for some very brief,
non-kayaking information about Thunder Bay (it is hard to
imagine that there is such a thing as useful non-kayaking
information).  :-)

I know that Richard Culpeper used to live there, but the
email address which I have for him bounced back, so if you
live in Thunder Bay, I would appreciate an answer by private
email to the following address.

waddinj_at_recorder.ca

Thanks,
John Waddington
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From: Wilke Nelson <wen1_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Thunder Bay ON
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:10:55 -0500
How do I get removed from this list?

John Waddington wrote:

> I am looking to contact anyone on the list who is living in
> Thunder Bay, ON, Canada. I am looking for some very brief,
> non-kayaking information about Thunder Bay (it is hard to
> imagine that there is such a thing as useful non-kayaking
> information).  :-)
>
> I know that Richard Culpeper used to live there, but the
> email address which I have for him bounced back, so if you
> live in Thunder Bay, I would appreciate an answer by private
> email to the following address.
>
> waddinj_at_recorder.ca
>
> Thanks,
> John Waddington
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From: Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Thunder Bay ON
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:09:36 -0500
My new email is culpeper_at_tbaytel.net and my web page is at
www.tbaytel.net/culpeper

> John Waddington wrote:
>
> > I am looking to contact anyone on the list who is living in
> > Thunder Bay, ON, Canada. I am looking for some very brief,
> > non-kayaking information about Thunder Bay (it is hard to
> > imagine that there is such a thing as useful non-kayaking
> > information).  :-)
> >
> > I know that Richard Culpeper used to live there, but the
> > email address which I have for him bounced back, so if you
> > live in Thunder Bay, I would appreciate an answer by private
> > email to the following address.
> >
> > waddinj_at_recorder.ca
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John Waddington
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From: Ira Adams <iadams_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Thunder Bay ON
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:20:55 -0600
Post something really ugly about Jackie's little dog?

Try to sell sponsons to everybody?

Or maybe read the instructions you got when you subscribed. I'll bet you 
could also find them on the Paddlewise Web pages.

Ira  Adams

On 11/21/99 12:10 PM Wilke Nelson (wen1_at_erols.com) wrote:

>How do I get removed from this list?
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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Thunder Bay ON
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:34:56 -0800
Ira Adams wrote:
> 
> Post something really ugly about Jackie's little dog?
> 
> Try to sell sponsons to everybody?
> 
> Or maybe read the instructions you got when you subscribed. I'll bet you
> could also find them on the Paddlewise Web pages.
> 
> Ira  Adams

Ira, while I know you speak in jest, be careful regarding anything about
Jackie's little darlings.  One of them, Hallie, is named after me and
them's is fighting words!  :-)

ralph diaz
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From: <JSpinner_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Thunder Bay ON
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:52:17 EST
    Not to be mean but it would be nice if people realize that not all of us 
have total access to things like web pages. I can thank aol for its really 
high quality Mac support for my web browser punting me about 90% of the time. 
Accessing some pages makes me wonder if social security will end before the 
whole thing shows up.
    I have a second bone to pick with aol, in that I am still on ver. 3, I 
think it is, for my Window NT machine at work. That one doesn't even have a 
spell checker and I just use the t1 for web access. Aol is a joke on that 
platform too. I don't care about all the things aol does because about 75% 
has nothing to do with anything I can use at this point.
    So, if you want to aim really useful messages like this could you please 
cc aol for me? I might actually get my $21 worth out of them someday.
    So, would someone with the e-mail saved somewhere in their system like to 
send this person the information they asked for? I don't have it either.

Joan Spinner

In a message dated 11/21/99 6:28:30 PM, iadams_at_earthlink.net writes:

<< Post something really ugly about Jackie's little dog?

Try to sell sponsons to everybody?

Or maybe read the instructions you got when you subscribed. I'll bet you 
could also find them on the Paddlewise Web pages.

Ira  Adams

On 11/21/99 12:10 PM Wilke Nelson (wen1_at_erols.com) wrote:

>How do I get removed from this list? >>

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From: <Sandykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Thunder Bay ON
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:54:50 EST
In a message dated 11/21/1999 7:57:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:

<< One of them, Hallie, is named after me and them's is fighting words!  :-) 
ralph diaz >>


OK, I'll bite.  How does the word Hallie derive from the name Rafael Diaz?  
Pray tell us the story.

Sandy Kramer
Miami

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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Hallie Re: Thunder Bay ON
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:13:56 -0800
Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 11/21/1999 7:57:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:
> 
> << One of them, Hallie, is named after me and them's is fighting words!  :-)
> ralph diaz >>
> 
> OK, I'll bite.  How does the word Hallie derive from the name Rafael Diaz?
> Pray tell us the story.
> 
> Sandy 

This is really a wonderful Jackie Fenton story more than a Diaz one.

Just before Christmas last year, Jackie who lives in Southern California
and much more soft-hearted than her tough PaddleWise den mother persona
lets on, got upset about something she had heard of through the 'Net.  A
Westie puppy, the same breed as her beloved Mollie of ascii art fame,
had been returned to a pet shop in Las Vegas because of some ailment
that is common among Westies.

Jackie knew that the ailment could be cured with a caring regimen of
medicine and attention. She negotiated with the shop to buy the puppy. 
But it was now Christmas eve. Jackie was upset by the vision of the
puppy alone in a closed shop over the holiday.  In a scene reminiscent
of the Three Wise Men and the baby in the manger, she got her
significant other, Bob, to drive the long distance over the Rockies with
her and Mollie to pick up the puppy before the shop closed.  

The puppy turned out to be a delight and took to Bob and Jackie right
away.  And to Mollie.  The two greeted each other like twins who had
been separated at birth...no jealousies, no territory staking out, just
a lot of sisterly sharing.

The rescued puppy showed herself immediately to be a scamp.  Her
favorite trick was to steal any sock or small object that was lying
around and to hide it.  With the story of her rescue on Christmas eve
and her loving way with people, the puppy stole the heart of anyone who
met her.  Jackie started thinking of her as a pirate of hearts and
things.  And that is where one Rafael Diaz y O'Halloran comes in.

About a month earlier, Jackie and I had been exchanging email on some
matter.  Somewhere along the line, I mentioned to her that her last
name, Fenton, meant "someone who lived near a marsh or low wet area." (I
had written a book, still not published, about surnames, so I kinda know
such things).  I mentioned what my two last names meant.  Diaz (paternal
surname) coming from "of, or son of, Iago or Diego" and O'Halloran
(maternal surname) from early Gaelic for "pirate or stranger from across
the sea." 

Jackie remembered that.  And so the new puppy became Hallie as a
dimunitive of O'Halloran.  So that is why I have a puppy named after
me.  Sic transit gloria.

ralph 

p.s. sorry that this is not kayaking related but it does say a lot about
Jackie, our den mom.


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From: <Sandykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Hallie Re: Thunder Bay ON
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:33:52 EST
In a message dated 11/22/1999 9:28:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:

<< Jackie remembered that.  And so the new puppy became Hallie as a
 dimunitive of O'Halloran.  So that is why I have a puppy named after
 me.  Sic transit gloria. >>

Gee, I only asked a simple question! :)  Seriously, as a two-dog owner, I 
loved the story.

For the rest of you who didn't know what it meant either:

My Dictionary of Foreign Termes defines 

sic transit gloria mundi      as: thus passes the glory of the world

sounds like a positive way of saying "s**t happens "

Sandy Kramer

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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_intelenet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Hallie Re: Thunder Bay ON
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:15:44 -0800 (PST)
From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>

> Just before Christmas last year, Jackie who lives in Southern California
> and much more soft-hearted than her tough PaddleWise den mother persona
> lets on, got upset about something she had heard of through the 'Net.  

Now you've gone and ruined my reputation. :-)

> A Westie puppy, the same breed as her beloved Mollie of ascii art fame,
> had been returned to a pet shop in Las Vegas because of some ailment
> that is common among Westies.

CMO or Cranial Mandibular Osteopathy... the canine version of elephant
man disease.  If it doesn't kill the puppy (sometimes they
die of malnutrition as the disease causes too much pain for the puppy
to eat), they can outgrow it and live a perfectly normal life and all
signs disappear.  This disease occurs often in puppy mill puppies which 
is where Hallie came from.  I've been informed that the pet store that
had Hallie for four months has been shut down.  Yeeeeaaaaaaaayyyy!!
Due to malnutrition (improper and lack of treatment for the CMO), Hallie
is basically a runt.  But she makes up for her small size with 
major energy.  This is one fiesty furry kayaker.

> Jackie knew that the ailment could be cured with a caring regimen of
> medicine and attention. She negotiated with the shop to buy the puppy. 
> But it was now Christmas eve. Jackie was upset by the vision of the
> puppy alone in a closed shop over the holiday.  In a scene reminiscent
> of the Three Wise Men and the baby in the manger, she got her
> significant other, Bob, to drive the long distance over the Rockies with
> her and Mollie to pick up the puppy before the shop closed.  

Well, actually, it was over the desert and through the cactus to Las Vegas 
but I'd rather have been driving over the Rockies (or anywhere for that 
matter) than to Las Vegas.  I *hate* Vegas.

> The puppy turned out to be a delight and took to Bob and Jackie right
> away.  And to Mollie.  The two greeted each other like twins who had
> been separated at birth...no jealousies, no territory staking out, just
> a lot of sisterly sharing.

Uh, and a lot of sparring.  That's what westies do.  They have to keep
in shape for the badger kill :-)  They love to hunt which is why I'm
convinced they love going out on a sea kayak... they think they are
with alpha dog (me) on the hunt for something fierce.  All a big
game for westies.  *Life* is one big game for westies.  

<snip>

> About a month earlier, Jackie and I had been exchanging email on some
> matter.  Somewhere along the line, I mentioned to her that her last
> name, Fenton, meant "someone who lived near a marsh or low wet area."

We've always referred to ourselves as the "swamp people."  :-)  The
desire to get wet is in my heritage. 

> (I
> had written a book, still not published, about surnames, so I kinda know
> such things).  I mentioned what my two last names meant.  Diaz (paternal
> surname) coming from "of, or son of, Iago or Diego" and O'Halloran
> (maternal surname) from early Gaelic for "pirate or stranger from across
> the sea." 

Nothing stranger than a westie pirate in a kayak....

> Jackie remembered that.  And so the new puppy became Hallie as a
> dimunitive of O'Halloran.  So that is why I have a puppy named after
> me.  Sic transit gloria.

And she's certainly living up to her name :-)

I need a mini tandem folding kayak for two westies so they can start carrying
their own baggage....

Cheers,

Jackie


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From: Steve Holtzman <waterdoc_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Hallie Re: Thunder Bay ON
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:41:17 -0800
Jackie,

I've always had a lot of respect for you because of all of the work you've
done as "den mother" of this group--but now to also hear that you are
against puppy farms and pet stores that sell dogs from them---well there
just aren't any words to express how much more respect you've earned.

As a former dog breeder and exhibitor (Old English), owner of canardlies
(you can hardly tell what breed they are), and now as the proud pet of two
Dobies; a tip of my paddling hat to you!!

Steve Holtzman

> ......is where Hallie came from.  I've been informed that the pet store
that
> had Hallie for four months has been shut down.  Yeeeeaaaaaaaayyyy!!
> .......This is one fiesty furry kayaker.
>


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