My wife just called to tell me that she's taking me to Mexico in a few weeks to a place near Cancun that's apparently known as the Mayan Riveria. I don't do too well in resorts, but this is supposed to be less resort-ish, I dunno. Anyhow, has anyone every paddled that part of the world? Is there an outfitter in the neighborhood? I think the hotel has some sort of kayaks on the beach, but I'm not expecting much. Ralph, thanks in advance for your suggestion :) Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 15:30 12/22/99 -0500, Steve Cramer wrote: > > [snip] > >Ralph, thanks in advance for your suggestion :) > >Steve i'll beat him too it, by suggesting the place that fed-ex's them to you, several on this list seemed to have used them... ;-) enjoy mark -- #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.jacknjillz.com/paddler [index of Paddling websites I manage] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. --Pablo Picasso *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Steve Cramer wrote: > > My wife just called to tell me that she's taking me to Mexico in a few > weeks to a place near Cancun that's apparently known as the Mayan > Riveria. I don't do too well in resorts, but this is supposed to be less > resort-ish, I dunno. > > Anyhow, has anyone every paddled that part of the world? Is there an > outfitter in the neighborhood? I think the hotel has some sort of kayaks > on the beach, but I'm not expecting much. > > Ralph, thanks in advance for your suggestion :) > > Steve What makes you think that _I_ would know? Just because I have a Latino surname, doesn't mean I would know about Latin American places to paddle. Would you ask Jackie Fenton about paddling in the UK because she has a British surname? Would you ask Sandy Kramer about paddling in Germany because of her last name? Or Richard Clifford about the paddling in Ireland because of his Gaelic origins? Actually, I hope you know I am just kidding. :-) :-) I have never paddled in Mexico since I was not a paddler back when I visited the country quite often. I understand that in the Yucatan, where Cancun and environs are located, there are sit-on-top rentals in just about every place. feliz navidad, ralph -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu> > My wife just called to tell me that she's taking me to Mexico in a few > weeks to a place near Cancun that's apparently known as the Mayan > Riveria. I don't do too well in resorts, but this is supposed to be less > resort-ish, I dunno. My granite installer is from Cancun. From his description, be prepared for daily rain. Sometimes heavy. But nice and warm all year around. > Anyhow, has anyone every paddled that part of the world? Is there an > outfitter in the neighborhood? I think the hotel has some sort of kayaks > on the beach, but I'm not expecting much. One option is to take a folding kayak. See http://www.foldingkayak.com for info about having one delivered to you before you go and carry it to Cancun with you. I've also heard hotels usually have kayaks for rent (SOT's). Cheers, Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 05:58 PM 12/22/99 -0800, Jackie Fenton wrote: >> From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu> > >> My wife just called to tell me that she's taking me to Mexico in a few >> weeks to a place near Cancun that's apparently known as the Mayan >> Riveria. I don't do too well in resorts, but this is supposed to be less >> resort-ish, I dunno. > >My granite installer is from Cancun. From his description, be prepared >for daily rain. Sometimes heavy. But nice and warm all year around. I spent a week in Cancun many years ago and it only rained once, on the first day. >One option is to take a folding kayak. See http://www.foldingkayak.com >for info about having one delivered to you before you go and carry it >to Cancun with you. I've also heard hotels usually have kayaks for >rent (SOT's). And for good reason. The water there is really warm and the snorkeling is excellent. Steve, as long as your making it a "Mayan" vacation be sure to check out Tulum. There are Mayan ruins there and it's on the coast. Pretty much all the other sites are inland. Tulum is about 45 miles from Cancun. On the way you can also stop at Xel Ha, a popular swimming/snorkeling spot. Isla Mujeras is also definately worth checking out. There is a regular ferry out to the Island and you might even find a kayak outfitter out there. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Ralph I think everyone on this list kind of thinks you know everything = it doesn't have anything to do with your surname, you're a genral resource, and we all thank you for it. Happy New Year Joan On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:39:21 -0800 ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com> writes: > Steve Cramer wrote: > > > > My wife just called to tell me that she's taking me to Mexico in a > few > > weeks to a place near Cancun that's apparently known as the Mayan > > Riveria. I don't do too well in resorts, but this is supposed to > be less > > resort-ish, I dunno. > > > > Anyhow, has anyone every paddled that part of the world? Is there > an > > outfitter in the neighborhood? I think the hotel has some sort of > kayaks > > on the beach, but I'm not expecting much. > > > > Ralph, thanks in advance for your suggestion :) > > > > Steve > > What makes you think that _I_ would know? Just because I have a > Latino > surname, doesn't mean I would know about Latin American places to > paddle. Would you ask Jackie Fenton about paddling in the UK because > she has a British surname? Would you ask Sandy Kramer about > paddling in > Germany because of her last name? Or Richard Clifford about the > paddling in Ireland because of his Gaelic origins? > > Actually, I hope you know I am just kidding. :-) :-) > > I have never paddled in Mexico since I was not a paddler back when I > visited the country quite often. I understand that in the Yucatan, > where Cancun and environs are located, there are sit-on-top rentals > in > just about every place. > > feliz navidad, > > ralph > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter > PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 > Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com > "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ************************************************************************* ** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author > and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > ************************************************************************* ** ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Personally, I assumed he made the "thanks in advance" comment because, if I'm not mistaken, Folding-Kayak is your _middle_name_! :) Shawn Ralph wrote: >What makes you think that _I_ would know? Just because I have a Latino >surname, doesn't mean I would know about Latin American places to >paddle. <<snip>> >Actually, I hope you know I am just kidding. :-) :-) > >I have never paddled in Mexico since I was not a paddler back when I >visited the country quite often. I understand that in the Yucatan, >where Cancun and environs are located, there are sit-on-top rentals in >just about every place. -- Shawn W. Baker 0 46°53'N © 1999 ____©/______ 114°06'W ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^\ ,/ /~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ baker_at_montana.com 0 http://www.missoulaconcrete.com/shawn/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 Outfit3029_at_aol.com wrote: > rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes: > > << What makes you think that _I_ would know? Just because I have a Latino > surname, doesn't mean I would know about Latin American places to > paddle. Would you ask Jackie Fenton about paddling in the UK because > she has a British surname? Would you ask Sandy Kramer about paddling in > Germany because of her last name? Or Richard Clifford about the > paddling in Ireland because of his Gaelic origins? > > Actually, I hope you know I am just kidding. :-) :-) >> > > Ralph, > You missed the boat. Or did I? > I am sure that Steve Cramer was referring to folding kayaks. > Bingo! I was trying to (playfully) pre-empt a "if your boat fit in a bag, you could take it with you" response. Mark Z and Jackie mentioned the FedEx-you-a-boat-in-a-bag services, which I had forgotten about. I've also discovered that Trek & Trail, who we have paddled Lake Superior with in June, moves their operation to the Yucatan in the winter, so I'll be checking with them, also. Anyway, what would Ralph know about Mexico? He's from Puerto Rico. :) If you meet anybody named Bubba, though, be sure he'll know about paddling in GA, NC, and TN. Steve Cramer (Whose Dutch surname qualifies him to know there ain't no white water paddling in Holland :) ) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Steve Cramer wrote: > Bingo! I was trying to (playfully) pre-empt a "if your boat fit in a bag, > you could take it with you" response. Mark Z and Jackie mentioned the > FedEx-you-a-boat-in-a-bag services, which I had forgotten about. That would have been much too obvious a response by me and therefore I didn't give it figuring some other people would. :-) I think actually for a Mayan holiday of the nature you seem to be planning, you would probably want to paddle only a few times for a few hours and a rental SOT would have been a fine vessel for that operating in its own element, i.e. warm. > > Anyway, what would Ralph know about Mexico? He's from Puerto Rico. :) > If you meet anybody named Bubba, though, be sure he'll know about paddling > in GA, NC, and TN. Actually I'm of Cuban descent. But that's okay. Jose Marti who led the Cuban revolution against Spain in the 1890s (and whose poem is immortalized in the words of the one Cuban song most people know, Guantamera") once said that Cuba and Puerto Rico are two wings of the same bird. ralph > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
->Steve, as long as your making it a "Mayan" vacation be sure to check out >Tulum. There are Mayan ruins there and it's on the coast. Pretty much >all the other sites are inland. Tulum is about 45 miles from Cancun. On >the way you can also stop at Xel Ha, a popular swimming/snorkeling spot. >Isla Mujeras is also definately worth checking out. There is a regular ferry >out to the Island and you might even find a kayak outfitter out there. They only have SOT's on Isla Mujeres. Arthur *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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> From jaf30_at_cornell.edu Thu Dec 23 05:15 PST 1999 > At 05:58 PM 12/22/99 -0800, Jackie Fenton wrote: > >> From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu> > > > >> My wife just called to tell me that she's taking me to Mexico in a few > >> weeks to a place near Cancun that's apparently known as the Mayan > >> Riveria. I don't do too well in resorts, but this is supposed to be less > >> resort-ish, I dunno. > > > >My granite installer is from Cancun. From his description, be prepared > >for daily rain. Sometimes heavy. But nice and warm all year around. > > I spent a week in Cancun many years ago and it only rained once, on the > first day. Actually, it sounded like he was describing Hawaii (which has quite frequent rains, I hear). I think he misses his birth home, Cancun, quite a bit and, like me, also misses the rain after being in southern California awhile where... IT NEVER RAINS... or hardly ever... can be a bummer when you are used to the frequent, sweet and wonderful smell of fresh showers. Cheers, Jackie (74 degrees and sunny... oh so sunny) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
For the last several days, I have been watching the ice build up around the shores of a nearby lake, and watching a flock of hundreds of geese huddle in the shrinking puddle of open water. This morning it was cold, after being clear much of last night and I wondered how they were doing, so I decided to use the excuse of a run to the convenience store for a cup of coffee to see how they were doing. I headed up the road in my van to the sparkle of the overnight's light snow twinkling in the light of a cold winter sun. As far as I could see, the lake was frozen over, but far out on the lake there was a flock of what appeared to be hundreds of geese huddled together, steam rolling off their body warmth. You'd think they'd fly off to a warmer climate, and they're going to have to pretty soon, but they're apparently hanging on in hopes of a thaw that will have to be a lot bigger than the weatherman says is coming. I don't paddle the lake the geese were on very often, since there's no good public access and it's surrounded with cottages, each with a couple of jetskis at the dock in the warmer months. Coffee in hand, I decided to head down to Lake Hudson, my regular kayaking grounds to see what was happening there, if anything. Down at Lake Hudson, I pulled into the familiar driveway, to see the think skin of the snow from the night before covering the road; in my rear view mirror, I could see the wind wash from my van piling it in a complicated skien of chaotic windthrows. My eye picks out a particular shiny spot, and I wonder at how it can continue to throw the light at me as I change angles in approaching it. How magical sunlight and snowflakes can be! It was obvious that I was the first person to head into the lake today, even though by now it was midmorning of another short winter's day. The colors of the day were white and brown, with the blue of the sky overhead. Off to sunward, I saw the shape of a large bird gliding between naked, barren branches. It looked sort of like a hawk, but since I only saw a silhouette, my bird identification was challenged. Whatever it was, it was another bird that I would have thought would be off in a warmer climate, soaking in the rays of a tropical sun, soaring over some beach crowded with sunbathers, but it too must have had some reason to hang around and put up with the cold of a Michigan winter, at least for a bit longer. It was bleak down at the boat launch, the scene of many loadings and unloadings over the years. There would be none today, for the lake was covered with ice. There was the gray where stress fractures resulting from the expansion of the ice when it froze shoved a little water out onto the surface, enough to wet down the dusting of snow, but as a last gasp of hope of open water, it wasn't much to think about. The ice was new enough that there was no way I was going to walk out on it, although in the back of my head I thought that I might like to take a hike out there later in the winter, when the ice is thicker. Such a hike might reveal a few secrets that are hard to discern from the seat of a kayak, but today wouldn't be the day, either. I could at least take a walk around the boat launch. I left the van running; the heater isn't very good, and it could use all the help it would get. A light breeze bit at my ears, and I pulled down the stocking cap that I'd only started wearing this week. A mile off in the distance, I could see the secret little spot that I call "The Narrows", where a channel leads to the western part of the lake. Today, the western section was hidden, and this time, it would remain so, since there'd be no trip down there, along the ridge where the turkey vultures soar in the summers, no blue herons to inspire by the grace of their flight, no geese -- not even a huddling flock of diehards like I'd seen on the other lake earlier. There'd be no soft putter of motors as fishermen trolled for the lake's lunker muskies, and no dip of paddle in the water. Under it's hard, white blanket, the lake was asleep for the winter. The days and weeks until the lake wakes up seem endless, a near eternity looming ahead. Over the last decade or so, we've had open water by the end of February about half the time, but I've seen the ice remain until April, too, so there's no safe way to make a prediction of how long I'll have to wait, frustrated by nature's cycle. I make a mental note to take the paddling gear out of the back of the van, where it's ridden regularly since March. I have to have faith in the cycles of nature, in the wanderings of the sun, that sooner or later the days will warm up, that the first sprigs of green will appear, and that the geese will come back. "Two months", I think. "Two months, and at least we'll be looking out of it." I'm lying to myself, of course; it'll be more like three, or even more, before I'll be able to get out with the kayak with any regularity. I'm not really dressed for being out in the breeze, so I turn back to the van, where the heater is struggling to pull ahead of the winter's cold. All the holiday activities lie ahead, the dinners, the gifts, the family time. It's a bright spot in a bleak period, when spring seems so far away. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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