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From: <LedJube_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] RE: Itchy in saltwater......
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:33:13 EST
In a message dated 1/4/00 8:10:45 PM, BDenton_at_aquagulf.com writes:

<< No, Sea Lice are something completely different that only occurs in parts 
of

Florida and the Caribbean. Sea lice can make poison ivy look like a picnic.>>

Suddenly I'm perfectly happy to chop ice for 15 min before I can go paddling.

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From: <MadPoodle_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] RE: Itchy in saltwater......
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:08:41 EST
In a message dated 1/4/00 3:34:34 PM, BDenton_at_aquagulf.com writes:

>Sea Lice are something completely different that only occurs in parts 
>of

Ahh, the Lyme ticks of the sea... I believe they are larvae of jellyfish 
(Cassiopeia ??). Whatever they are, I'd still rather scratch than freeze!

Scott

Further from Cuba tonight


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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] RE: Itchy in saltwater......
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:34:18 -0500
If you really want some sea fun ask our Ozzie friends about Sea Wasps and
Box Jellies!!

cya

In a message dated 1/4/00 8:10:45 PM, BDenton_at_aquagulf.com writes:

<< No, Sea Lice are something completely different that only occurs in parts

of

Florida and the Caribbean. Sea lice can make poison ivy look like a
picnic.>>

Suddenly I'm perfectly happy to chop ice for 15 min before I can go
paddling.

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From: Peter Treby <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] RE: Itchy in saltwater......
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:18:04 +1100
Bob writes: "If you really want some sea fun ask our Ozzie friends about Sea
Wasps and
Box Jellies!!



Bob Denton writes: " If you really want some sea fun ask our Ozzie friends about
Sea Wasps and Box Jellies!!"
You've drawn me in Bob! My handy bedside volume "Venomous Creatures of
Australia" by Dr Struan Sutherland, records 60 of the less friendly animals in
this part of the world. The box jelly fish, or sea wasp, Chironex Fleckeri, has
this at the start of the entry:-
"Since 1900 more than 70 people have died suddenly and painfully from Box
Jellyfish stings in northern Australian waters. Many children have died within
minutes of being stung. The average of Box Jellyfish victims in Queensland is
14. No one should swim in tropical waters when the local people warn that the
time of year and conditions of the sea are right for this deadly creature to
come close to the shore".
The first aid treatment requires flooding the stung area with vinegar for at
least 30 seconds, applying a pressure immobilisation bandage (not over any
stings untreated with vinegar) splinting the bandaged limb and immobilising the
victim. It does not include rubbing tentacles off with sand.
Lifeguards patrolling beaches where there is a risk keep vinegar available, and
have been known to wear panty hose to prevent stings to themselves. Justifiable
cross-dressing.

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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] RE: Itchy in saltwater......
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:31:51 -0500
There was a show on the Discovery Channel the other night about the worlds
10 deadliest snakes...all were in Oz!

Good on ya mate!

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Bob writes: "If you really want some sea fun ask our Ozzie friends about Sea
Wasps and
Box Jellies!!



Bob Denton writes: " If you really want some sea fun ask our Ozzie friends
about
Sea Wasps and Box Jellies!!"
You've drawn me in Bob! My handy bedside volume "Venomous Creatures of
Australia" by Dr Struan Sutherland, records 60 of the less friendly animals
in
this part of the world. The box jelly fish, or sea wasp, Chironex Fleckeri,
has
this at the start of the entry:-
"Since 1900 more than 70 people have died suddenly and painfully from Box
Jellyfish stings in northern Australian waters. Many children have died
within
minutes of being stung. The average of Box Jellyfish victims in Queensland
is
14. No one should swim in tropical waters when the local people warn that
the
time of year and conditions of the sea are right for this deadly creature to
come close to the shore".
The first aid treatment requires flooding the stung area with vinegar for at
least 30 seconds, applying a pressure immobilisation bandage (not over any
stings untreated with vinegar) splinting the bandaged limb and immobilising
the
victim. It does not include rubbing tentacles off with sand.
Lifeguards patrolling beaches where there is a risk keep vinegar available,
and
have been known to wear panty hose to prevent stings to themselves.
Justifiable
cross-dressing.

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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] RE: Itchy in saltwater......
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 15:46:35 -0800
BDenton_at_aquagulf.com writes:
> 
> No, Sea Lice are something completely different that only occurs in parts
> of Florida and the Caribbean. Sea lice can make poison ivy look like a 
> picnic.

"Sea lice" must mean different critters in different parts of the US.  Steelhead
fresh from the saltchuck have parasites on them we called sea lice -- but they
were not jellyfish larvae, AFAIK.

Don't know what their biological proper name is.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] RE: Itchy in saltwater......
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:05:28 -0500
>> No, Sea Lice are something completely different that only occurs in parts
>> of Florida and the Caribbean. Sea lice can make poison ivy look like a
>> picnic.
>"Sea lice" must mean different critters in different parts of the US.
Steelhead
>fresh from the saltchuck have parasites on them we called sea lice -- but
they
>were not jellyfish larvae, AFAIK. Don't know what their biological proper
name is.


        In freshwater, there are two items.  One is called "Swimmer's Itch"
and is not uncommon throughout the US.  It is a flukeworm that is not a
parasite of humans, but of some other mammals found near water.  Typically,
you get the itch in COVERED areas, such as under a swimsuit, where the
larvae are held against your skin longer than otherwise.  They try to drill
in but you don't taste so good so they quit.  They usually originate from
animal feces deposited in the water nearby or washed in.   Skunks, Otters,
Beavers, Muskrats, and some others are the usual hosts.   I've been hit with
this in Florida and there were reports last year from Algonquin P.P. and
BWCA.
        There is also a freshwater Fishlouse.   This is a Branchiuran, once
thought to be a copepod.  There are about 23 species of Argulus found in NA
waters.  They're parasitic on fish and tadpoles but not on warmblooded
vertebrates.  Some feed on the blood of their hosts, others on the external
mucal layers.
        Confused enough?    Sorry, don't know much about the saline lice....
JP

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