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From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] Mini Trangia
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:27:43 -0800
Trangia's website did not quote heat output. Anybody know if
the mini puts out as much as the bigger models? Every cubic
inch in the Caribou is precious.

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From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mini Trangia
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:49:03 -0600
While I love the Trangia, I have heard from several people that the 
mini can be problematic as it doesn't have a windscreen. This lack 
makes it pretty had to deal with. I think it only costs $25 or 
something, so it may be worth the money to mess around with and is 
small enough the keep as an emergency backup stove or something. For 
the real Trangia experience, you need the 25-5 or 27-5. I also found 
out that MSR is now only carrying the larger 25 series and the mini. 
This of course fuels my conspiracy theory that MSR is surpressing 
availability of the Trangia here in the US. Sure, those dealers will 
say demand is low for alcohol stoves, but go to your local dealer 
sometime and see what they try and sell you - a high-powered super 
jet-blower boils water is three seconds death stove. It's a cover-up 
I tells ya.

I mean, we're paddling, how fast do you really need to boil water? 
And how can MSR say demand is low if no one carries the stoves in the 
first place? Also check out how many stove accessories and repair 
kits are around for the various hi-tech stoves, now look for 
something other than fuel bottles for the Trangia.

Looking for black helicopters.

-Patrick

At 9:27 AM -0800 3/13/00, E. Sullivan wrote:
>Trangia's website did not quote heat output. Anybody know if
>the mini puts out as much as the bigger models? Every cubic
>inch in the Caribou is precious.
>
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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mini Trangia
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:48:04
At 12:49 PM 3/13/00 -0600, Patrick Maun wrote:
>While I love the Trangia, I have heard from several people that the 
>mini can be problematic as it doesn't have a windscreen. This lack 
>makes it pretty had to deal with. I think it only costs $25 or 
>something, so it may be worth the money to mess around with and is 
>small enough the keep as an emergency backup stove or something. For

I have a small "made it myself" windscreen I occasionally use.
 
>the real Trangia experience, you need the 25-5 or 27-5. I also found 
>out that MSR is now only carrying the larger 25 series and the mini. 

At Canoecopia this weekend, they had three different types of Trangia
there, but not the mini. Go figure.

>This of course fuels my conspiracy theory that MSR is surpressing 
>availability of the Trangia here in the US. Sure, those dealers will 
>say demand is low for alcohol stoves, but go to your local dealer 
>sometime and see what they try and sell you - a high-powered super 
>jet-blower boils water is three seconds death stove. It's a cover-up 
>I tells ya.

Couldn't agree more. I think the time is going to come that we Trangia
advocates are going to have to order the stoves from overseas. Of course,
now that we have the Internet, it shouldn't be as big a deal to have to do so.

>I mean, we're paddling, how fast do you really need to boil water? 
>And how can MSR say demand is low if no one carries the stoves in the 
>first place? Also check out how many stove accessories and repair 
>kits are around for the various hi-tech stoves, now look for 
>something other than fuel bottles for the Trangia.

Of course, MSR may be looking for an excuse to pull out of Trangias
altogether. If that happens, maybe someone with some competence in
marketing will pick up the line. 

-- Wes

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