I have not witnessed Maligiaq's rolling abilities. I would not even be aware of who he is if it were not for this list. The people on this list seem to have made him into some kind of kayaking God. That's fine and dandy. I just might have to purchase the video of his rolling abilities so I can see what all of the fuss is about. In the meantime, I thought Mr. Diaz had an interesting point which forces me to ask, should Maliqiaq be forced to wear a PFD over here? I tried to ask this before, but apparently people on this list are afraid to respond to this question. On one hand, we have Maliqiaq, the legend. On the other hand, we have the hard-liners who don't know the meaning of compromise, but I think may be afraid to speak out against Maliqiaq for fear of sounding ridiculous. I have tried to argue in the past that there are legitimate exceptions to the "always wear your pfd" rule, only to be hammered by the folks on this list. So now let's put these views up against "the legend." Is not Maliqiaq setting a poor example by conducting all of these demonstrations of rolling without a pfd? Are not those of you who expound upon the virtues of this young man, who apparently does not wear a pfd, equally guilty of negligence? Or could it possibly be that, just perhaps, some exceptions do actually exist? Scott Another one of those So.Cal. pains in the #_at_& *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 3/6/00 1:41:44 AM !!!First Boot!!!, KiAyker_at_aol.com writes: << I have tried to argue in the past that there are legitimate exceptions to the "always wear your pfd" rule, only to be hammered by the folks on this list. So now let's put these views up against "the legend." Is not Maliqiaq setting a poor example by conducting all of these demonstrations of rolling without a pfd? Are not those of you who expound upon the virtues of this young man, who apparently does not wear a pfd, equally guilty of negligence ? Or could it possibly be that, just perhaps, some exceptions do actually exist? Scott >> Scott, I understand your point. I would also say this, I saw Maliquiaq demonstrate his skills a year ago. I would say that kayaking for him is second nature. He needs a PFD about as much as pre-European Americans needed convenience stores. The only "virtue" that I would expound upon would be that he did not appear to be egotistical about his paddling abilities. The demonstration that I watched was controlled. Small flat water pond with an expert paddler (Cindy Cole) within ten feet, water temp low 70's, water depth about 6 feet, thirty people on shore within thirty feet. Negligence in what way? Generally speaking, I believe that there are exceptions to rules. But, who determines the exceptions? The group or the individual? If you are in a group, then it has to be the group. Bruce McCutcheon WEO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
<< The demonstration that I watched was controlled. Small flat water pond with an expert paddler (Cindy Cole) within ten feet, water temp low 70's, water depth about 6 feet, thirty people on shore within thirty feet. Negligence in what way? >> What kind of message are you sending to beginning paddlers who watch the expert in the water without a pfd? They don't care that it's a small pond with people standing nearby to help. All they see is that this expert paddler dosen't wear a pfd, so perhaps pfd's are only for beginners. And since they don't want to look like a beginner themselves, they won't wear one either! I understand Maliqiaq was over here to race. Did he wear one for that? Scott So.Cal. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 3/6/00 1:07:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Ki Ayker writes: << I understand Maliqiaq was over here to race. Did he wear one for that? >> I didn't see him race. Safety equipment requirements and rules are the responsibility of the sanctioning organization. The rules are set and if you wish to participate, you follow them. Bruce McCutcheon WEO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> What kind of message are you sending to beginning paddlers who watch the >expert in the water without a pfd? They don't care that it's a small pond >with people standing nearby to help. All they see is that this expert paddler >dosen't wear a pfd, so perhaps pfd's are only for beginners. And since they >don't want to look like a beginner themselves, they won't wear one either! I assume, however, that all the other paddlers, Including some who were spectating, were wearing their PFDs! Insofar as times when paddlers do not wear PFDs, this is so for flatwater racing. Participants in these sprints are exempt from wearing a pfd during the competition (although some races may require that one be in the boat). Reason? This is intense physical exertion. Thermal properties of a pfd could be sufficient to produce hyperthermia under such conditions. Also, there is generally a chase boat in the vicinity for safety reasons. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
FWIW, I had the pleasure of paddling across Galveston Bay with Maligiaq and a Houston Canoe Club group last fall. It was a moderately windy day, and he was in a borrowed (eek, imagine this) plastic kayak. I am pleased to report to you he WAS wearing a pfd that day, and I am sure he must have been plenty warm too. AND it was a purple lifejacket. I have a photo to prove it! Natalie Wiest Galveston TX > I have not witnessed Maligiaq's rolling abilities. I would not even be > aware of who he is if it were not for this list. The people on this list seem > to have made him into some kind of kayaking God. That's fine and dandy. I > just might have to purchase the video of his rolling abilities so I can see > what all of the fuss is about. [snip] *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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