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From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] Racks/mileage may vary
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:56:18 -0700
I went to a kayak club meeting recently and noticed many
many cars with empty racks on car roofs. It makes a nice
'I'm a kayaker' badge, but adds to greenhouse gasses. Take
'em off.

Cycling to work this morning I was passed by a Suburban with
a Yakima pod on the roof. Not only commuting with several
extra tons to move his 200 lb body, he had to add i to i
with an accoutrement he won't use again for months. We Yanks
have the biggest environmental bootprint on Earth...

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From: Rob Cookson <rob_cookson_at_mindspring.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Racks/mileage may vary
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 09:39:14 -0700
Hello E. and All,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of E. Sullivan
>
> I went to a kayak club meeting recently and noticed many
> many cars with empty racks on car roofs. It makes a nice
> 'I'm a kayaker' badge, but adds to greenhouse gasses. Take
> 'em off.

Perhaps some of the folks were planning to use their racks in the next
couple of days.


>
> Cycling to work this morning I was passed by a Suburban with
> a Yakima pod on the roof. Not only commuting with several
> extra tons to move his 200 lb body, he had to add i to i
> with an accoutrement he won't use again for months.

Are you sure he wasn't going to use the pod again for months?  Do you know
this gentleman?

It would be more environmentally friendly for you to walk to work rather
than cycling because it would avoid the manufacturing process involved with
your bike.  You could also carry a pack and pick up litter along the way.
Do you use chain lube on your chain?  Does any of it fly off as you ride?
What steps are you taking to recover your brake pad material as it wears
off?  What country were your cycling clothes made in?  Were they made with
fair labor/trade practices?


Am I being ridiculous?  Yes absolutely. It's all degrees and we need to
leave some room for individual effort and personal choice without being
hyper judgmental.  I recently heard someone chastise someone else for the
use of fertilizer on their flowers.  This struck me as funny since the one
doing the chastising drives an old vehicle with oil leaks.  Most of us do
better in some areas than others.

Anyway, I applaud your effort to keep the environment clean and cycling to
work is certainly a great way to do that. I just hate to see others so
quickly judged on what seems like so little information.



Cheers,

--
Rob Cookson
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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Racks/mileage may vary
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:10:13 -0400
At 08:56 AM 5/10/00 -0700, E. Sullivan wrote:
>I went to a kayak club meeting recently and noticed many
>many cars with empty racks on car roofs. It makes a nice
>'I'm a kayaker' badge, but adds to greenhouse gasses. Take
>'em off.
>
>Cycling to work this morning I was passed by a Suburban with
>a Yakima pod on the roof. Not only commuting with several
>extra tons to move his 200 lb body, he had to add i to i
>with an accoutrement he won't use again for months. 

How were you able to draw that conclusion?  My wife has a Yakima rack on
the top of her Explorer, but it's a replacement for the factory rack.
Just looking at the vehicle I would find it difficult to draw any
conclusions as to how often the rack is used (about a half dozen times in
the last month), or how far it's used for commuting everyday (about 80
miles a day).
 
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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Racks/mileage may vary
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:12:41 -0400
My racks (2 sets of TLCs and 2 Sets of Rollers) cost me a mile per gallon. I
burn 18 gallons a week which is about 18 miles a week that I lose on the
racks, however, I paddle at least 18 miles a week so does that mean I at
least break even ecologically??

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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 1:10 PM
To: sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org; p w
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Racks/mileage may vary


At 08:56 AM 5/10/00 -0700, E. Sullivan wrote:
>I went to a kayak club meeting recently and noticed many
>many cars with empty racks on car roofs. It makes a nice
>'I'm a kayaker' badge, but adds to greenhouse gasses. Take
>'em off.
>
>Cycling to work this morning I was passed by a Suburban with
>a Yakima pod on the roof. Not only commuting with several
>extra tons to move his 200 lb body, he had to add i to i
>with an accoutrement he won't use again for months. 

How were you able to draw that conclusion?  My wife has a Yakima rack on
the top of her Explorer, but it's a replacement for the factory rack.
Just looking at the vehicle I would find it difficult to draw any
conclusions as to how often the rack is used (about a half dozen times in
the last month), or how far it's used for commuting everyday (about 80
miles a day).
 
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Racks/mileage may vary
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:07:12 -0400
"E. Sullivan" wrote:

> I went to a kayak club meeting recently and noticed many
> many cars with empty racks on car roofs. It makes a nice
> 'I'm a kayaker' badge, but adds to greenhouse gasses. Take
> 'em off.
>
> Cycling to work this morning I was passed by a Suburban with
> a Yakima pod on the roof. Not only commuting with several
> extra tons to move his 200 lb body, he had to add i to i
> with an accoutrement he won't use again for months. We Yanks
> have the biggest environmental bootprint on Earth...

Well, I'll come to your defence.  Lots of cars here in the north
are still sporting their ski racks and ski boxes.  I can guarantee you
that very few are in use.   That's just a waste of gas.  When you see
one car with a rack, you can't say much about its use.  When you see
lots and lots of cars and trucks with racks, you can bet a lot of folks
are just too lazy to take them off.  While you may be wrong in pointing
out one vehicle, in general you're correct.

I usually take mine off after use.  I encourage others to do the same!

Mike

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