Last night as I was looking over my Ascente I noticed that one of the two mounting screws that hold the rudder assembly onto the stern of the kayak was a little bit loose. I paddle this boat with the rudder locked in its UP position most of the time so that I derive some benefit from being able to push against the foot pedals. I can only surmise that the rudder still receives some considerable twisting force when up and that this is what has ultimately caused this screw to begin to work loose. It surprised me, because I literally don't use the rudder very often and wouldn't have suspected an equipment failure there (but I still look!)<grin>. I plan to remove the rudder itself and reset the offending screw using some West System epoxy in the existing hole. My other thought is to simply fill the existing hole with an epoxy slurry, let it set, and then re-drill the hole - any opinions from others on the best approach? Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dave, If you ever want to get that screw out again, fill the hole with epoxy slurry, drill it, and then re-set the screw. If you want it set permanently, set it in freshly mixed epoxy. If you set it in freshly mixed epoxy and it cures (as epoxy has a notorious habit of doing) and you really want to remove the screw someday, heat the head of the screw with a soldering iron. Epoxy will soften with enough heat. Shawn *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Shawn W. Baker" wrote: > If you ever want to get that screw out again, fill the hole with epoxy > slurry, drill it, and then re-set the screw. If you want it set > permanently, set it in freshly mixed epoxy. > > If you set it in freshly mixed epoxy and it cures (as epoxy has a > notorious habit of doing) and you really want to remove the screw > someday, heat the head of the screw with a soldering iron. Epoxy will > soften with enough heat. Good points Shawn. <whine on> But I want it _both_ ways! I don't ever want that screw working loose by itself. But when I want to remove it I want it to come out a smoothly as a hot knife through butter<grin>. <whine off> Guess I'll take the prudent route and do the fill'n'drill routine. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sun, 14 May 2000, Dave Seng wrote: > "Shawn W. Baker" wrote: > > > If you ever want to get that screw out again, fill the hole with epoxy > > slurry, drill it, and then re-set the screw. If you want it set > > permanently, set it in freshly mixed epoxy. > > > <whine on> But I want it _both_ ways! I don't ever want that screw > working loose by itself. But when I want to remove it I want it to come > out a smoothly as a hot knife through butter<grin>. > <whine off> Dave, Permatex makes a product called Loctite that prevents nuts from coming off of screws. I think if you fill, drill, screw, unscrew, coat, and re-screw, you may be able to stop whining :) Here's the blurb: All-purpose, medium strength threadlocker. Ideal for all nut and bolt applications 1/4" or larger. Eliminates neeed for expensive lock nuts and lockwashers. Locks and seals while preventing parts loosening due to vibration. Protects threads from corrosion. Removable with hand tools for easy disassembly Suggested Applications: Valve cover bolts, water pump bolts, oil pan bolts, drive shaft bolts, rocker arm adjustment nuts, carburetor studs I note that kayak rudder screws are conspicuously absent from the suggested applications. That omission may be relevant. YMMV. Also, better check to see that the stuff is compatible with resin. Steve Steve Cramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Or put wax on the screw, then back it out when the epoxy is cured enough to hold its shape. Or use a bolt, but I can't remember any more what you were screwing. Richard Frost Dave Seng wrote: > "Shawn W. Baker" wrote: > > > If you ever want to get that screw out again, fill the hole with epoxy > > slurry, drill it, and then re-set the screw. If you want it set > > permanently, set it in freshly mixed epoxy. > > > > If you set it in freshly mixed epoxy and it cures (as epoxy has a > > notorious habit of doing) and you really want to remove the screw > > someday, heat the head of the screw with a soldering iron. Epoxy will > > soften with enough heat. > > Good points Shawn. > <whine on> But I want it _both_ ways! I don't ever want that screw > working loose by itself. But when I want to remove it I want it to come > out a smoothly as a hot knife through butter<grin>. > <whine off> > Guess I'll take the prudent route and do the fill'n'drill routine. > > Dave Seng > Juneau, Alaska > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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