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From: Peter Treby <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au>
subject: [Paddlewise] Changing feathers
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:19:54 +1000
"My first two years of paddling was with a unfeathered paddle.  It was no
individual or instruction that changed how I paddled it was the conditions
on a solo five day trip that changed my mind.  To each his own and I firmly
believe that."
Arthur, what were these conditions? Can I guess constant headwinds?
Regards, Peter T.

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From: Arthur Hebert <seacajun_at_gs.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Changing feathers
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:24:07 -0500
>"My first two years of paddling was with a unfeathered paddle.  It was no
>individual or instruction that changed how I paddled it was the conditions
>on a solo five day trip that changed my mind.  To each his own and I firmly
>believe that."


Peter T. wrote;
>Arthur, what were these conditions? Can I guess constant headwinds?


Back in 1994 Larry Koenig and I were paddling the entire Louisiana coast
hopping along the barrier islands.  We accomplished this in legs of between
100 and 120 miles.  On one particular leg (the Marsh Island area) our
schedules did not match up with time from work.  So we decided we would do a
110 miles stretch seperatly and solo passing the Marsh Island area of the
coast.
I spent the night at Larry house the day before departure with him providing
a ride to the put in.  We listened to the weather radio which suggested 32-
38 knot head winds.   I had a choice of going either direction (head winds
or tail winds).  I just had to see my limits in those conditions with head
winds.
Marsh Island is just as it sounds, MUD and Marsh along its shore line.  The
first day out was not to bad 24 to 30 knot winds out of the west as I headed
on a southwest course.  (I must add that I spent the night on a double
rigger shrimp boat.  Ate great that night and enough boiled shrimp left over
to last me two days).
  Things got pretty breezy on the secound day as I reached Marsh Island.
Heading west dead into 34 plus knot head winds.   Nine hours of countious
HARD paddling I only covered seven miles.   I stopped paddling once and lost
gound extremely fast.  Each foot was to hard to attain to stop paddling.
There was no stopping on Marsh Island due to the oyster shell reef that line
the shore in very shallow waters that reached out one mile into the Gulf of
Mexico.  After about five hours of the vicous wind pushing against my
unfeathered paddle I switched to feathered and never looked back.  I could
babble on about this trip but I'll stop now and say, ya right Peter it was
the WIND.  I must also note that I look forward to paddling into the wind it
adds a completely new dimension to paddling.
Arthur Hebert
Gretna, Louisiana  (other side da river from the Cresent City)


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From: BaysideBob <vaughan_at_jps.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Changing feathers
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 04:56:28 -0700
What degree of feather do you prefer?  I've heard 60 is best and I've
heard anything less than 70 is useless.

Bob

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From: "Arthur Hebert" <seacajun_at_gs.net>
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Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Changing feathers


 >After about five hours of the vicous wind pushing against my
> unfeathered paddle I switched to feathered and never looked back.  I could
> babble on about this trip but I'll stop now and say, ya right Peter it was
> the WIND.  I must also note that I look forward to paddling into the wind
it
> adds a completely new dimension to paddling.
> Arthur Hebert
> Gretna, Louisiana  (other side da river from the Cresent City)
>



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From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Changing feathers
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:44:14 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 2 May 2000, BaysideBob wrote:

> What degree of feather do you prefer?  I've heard 60 is best and I've
> heard anything less than 70 is useless.

I'm not arthur, but...

I've got 60, 70, 80 and 90 degree feathered paddles.  The 70 degree
is my current favorite feather angle.

I started with the 90, then 80, then 60, found 60 was too little and went
for a little under 70 (I bought a paddle without the blades attached and
put them on myself).  

When I can afford it I'll be getting an epic paddle with the adjustable 
feather and length and then I'll be able to isolate the exact feather I like.

kirk

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From: Arthur Hebert <seacajun_at_gs.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Changing feathers
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:12:33 -0500
>Bob on the Bayside wrote;
>What degree of feather do you prefer?  I've heard 60 is best and I've
>heard anything less than 70 is useless.


Hi Bob,
I use a 70* feathered paddle.  This feels like a natural rotation of MY
wrist.
Arthur Hebert

>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Arthur Hebert" <seacajun_at_gs.net>
>
> >After about five hours of the vicous wind pushing against my
>> unfeathered paddle I switched to feathered and never looked back.  I
could
>> babble on about this trip but I'll stop now and say, ya right Peter it
was
>> the WIND.  I must also note that I look forward to paddling into the wind
>it
>> adds a completely new dimension to paddling.
>> Arthur Hebert
>> Gretna, Louisiana  (other side da river from the Cresent City)


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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Changing feathers
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:17:18 -0400
At 08:12 PM 5/2/00 -0500, Arthur Hebert wrote:
>>Bob on the Bayside wrote;
>>What degree of feather do you prefer?  I've heard 60 is best and I've
>>heard anything less than 70 is useless.
>
>
>Hi Bob,
>I use a 70* feathered paddle.  This feels like a natural rotation of MY
>wrist.
>Arthur Hebert

Arthur certainly has more experience than I do but that's not going to stop
me from expressing my opinion on this topic.

I have read quite a few people on various internet paddling forums make a
statement like "get a paddle with less than 60 degree feather because
anything more causes wrist problems".  My answer is, " feathered paddles
don't cause wrist problems, repetively bending your wrist to it's maxium
range of motion causes wrist problems".

When doing a forward stroke, one of the goals is to have the blade enter
the water at the same angle on both sides.   With a feathered paddle,
achieving that angle on the off-control hand side, is typically done by
bending the wrist.  If, however, one bends their elbow as well as bending
the wrist, that same angle can be achieved without bending the wrist to
it's maximum range of motion.

Sure, it's easy to "solve" wrist problems with a paddle with a lesser
amount of feather, but a slight modification of the paddle stroke will
achieve the same results.


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