Mike Hilt asked: <duckman_at_peak.org> >>>How does one securely lock a kayak to a roof rack. Running a cable through elastic deck straps just won't cut it. I have just started building a Pygmy and I will build something into it to attach to if I need to. Thanks in advance for your answers.>>> I've taken the stock seat out of my fiberglass kayak, so have no secure point for a cable lock attachment. I finally went and got the Boulter Of Earth "SureLock" It has two loop ends which slide over the bow and stern, then pulls tight to sort of lasso each end together, with the excess end wrapped around my locking roof racks (locked via a padlock or the attached window lock). I also can use the lock for securing the kayak to a tree in the bush while I hitch hike back to the put-in and my vehicle. The SureLock also works in conjunction with bike carriers, etc. A very nice system, indeed, for any gearhead. I should add no one would probably want to steal my Nordkapp, as it weighs so much, is far too complex a maze of nylon straps and fixtures to figure out how to use, and altogether to distinctive to be of interest to thieves - but just in case... BC' in Ya Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug Did you fail to mention, "beaten to death and epoxy resurrected?" I think you have the right take on boats: "Paddle more purchase less." I think I've purchased my last boat for a long, long time. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lloyd" <dlloyd_at_telus.net> To: <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>; <duckman_at_peak.org> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: [Paddlewise] locking a kayak to a roof rack > I should add no one would probably want to steal my Nordkapp, as it > weighs so much, is far too complex a maze of nylon straps and fixtures > to figure out how to use, and altogether too distinctive to be of > interest to thieves - but just in case... > > BC' in Ya > Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I too have a Boulter cable, but I wrap it around the fiberglass seat of my sea kayak, or through the metal things on my whitewater kayak and then thread it through itself and put it in the door. I figure it'll at least slow them down. Andree Hurley - http://www.viewit.com/ - Updated On Water Sports, Kayaking Resources - http://www.onwatersports.com Online Editor - Canoe and Kayak Magazine - http://www.canoekayak.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
(Lurker jumps in and out) I've used this system for years and it seems to be pretty good to me, too. A thief could take the car too, I guess, but maybe an '85 Civic is a liability ;) Looks pretty goofy too, an 18' kayak on a 14' car ;) Diane Victoria, BC >I finally went and got the Boulter Of > Earth "SureLock" *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Anybody ever try a "Club"? Those steering wheel locking devices? Haven't found one that has enough bite to get around my Pintail's "ocean cockpit" rim, but I'm guessing that there are some out there that will. And certainly one that would take a good grab on my North Bay rim. It could probably even be mounted over a neoprene cockpit cover --- and be that much more noticeable. The obvious problem is getting one long enough to go to the extreme length of the cockpit --- not a problem in the North Bay and certainly not in the Pintail --- although the reverse may be true there. Link one of those woven cables to the rack bar and the lock, and you might have a clear choice. Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
|Anybody ever try a "Club"? Those steering wheel locking devices? Haven't found one that has |enough bite to get around my Pintail's "ocean cockpit" rim, but I'm guessing that there are |some out there that will. And certainly one that would take a good grab on my North Bay rim. |It could probably even be mounted over a neoprene cockpit cover --- and be that much more |noticeable. The obvious problem is getting one long enough to go to the extreme length of |the cockpit --- not a problem in the North Bay and certainly not in the Pintail --- although |the reverse may be true there. Link one of those woven cables to the rack bar and the lock, |and you might have a clear choice. When I was first pondering how to lock our kayaks on the vehicles I thought of the Club. The Club's I looked at would not work since they could not latch onto the cockpit rim or where not long enough to stay under the rim. What I found and use is is a product called the "yak bar." It is two square bars that fit into each other with U flange openings at the end. The bars have holes drilled through so you can attach a lock. You could easily make something similar as an earlier poster mentioned with round steel bars or square. Instead of the U flange which is going to require some welding, just having the two pieces being to long to remove from inside the cockpit would work. We place the yak bar in the cockpit with the padlock's keyhold up. This makes it very difficult to reach the padlock's hasp. Trying to hack saw in this position would be very difficult and there is not enough metal exposed for a bolt cutter. We then use a KryptoNight lock that we bought at the large hardware stores to go around the yak bar and the roof racks. The KryptoNight cables were designed to protect construction site equipment and appear to very tough. The bolt cutters in the store would not easily cut the cable. If at all. The cable was to thick. This was the best solution I could come up with. Its not perfect but its going to keep the teenagers on a weekend night from steeling the boats. I can only think of a few ways to defeat the system and that is going to require some expensive tools. Hope this helps.... Dan McCarty *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 5/7/2000 11:26:50 PM Central Daylight Time, romeug_at_erols.com writes: > Just pondering on the problem, and this is what I came up with. > > two pipes, as in gas pipes,... Another way to achieve a similar result is to use a "Club" type of automotive steering wheel lock. Just lock the device across the cockpit coaming if there is a seat or hip brace in place to prevent it from pivoting out, or put it across the long axis of the coaming if the cockpit is small enough. Unless someone hacks the coaming apart, you have a secure locking point. -Andy Knapp Minneapolis *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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