I agree with just about everything that others have said regarding this thread since I renamed it. The response is always situational. Going from a position of safety to one of greater danger is probably a better way of putting it but that is what I was trying to say when using the example of still being on land where there is an obvious safer choice that can be made. The point I wanted to make was that staying put isn't always the best choice but depends on the situation. Splitting the group is also risky so I hope it was clear that care must be taken to not create a group that is at greater risk because of the split unless that greater risk has been voluntarily entered into by all in that group. I rarely paddle with a group that has an assigned leader. A small group of strong paddlers can usually operate as a democracy with anybody with real strong feelings having veto power. My examples of a situation when a leader is essential were to point out the dangers of letting the weakest always decide. I was not saying it was always best to have a leader. The bigger the group and the less control one has as to who is in the group and the more likely it is that a leader needs to be agreed upon in advance. I can recall leading a club trip years ago where I insisted that the paddler in an old solo Pouch folder stay with the group and do a relatively short crossing in moderate seas rather than leave the group and circle the bay solo as he told me he was going to do to avoid the waves. The waves were only a foot to 1.5 feet high and we would be through them in ten or fifteen minutes. I pointed out to him that there were several strong paddlers who knew how to do rescues in the group and that if for some reason he couldn't be gotten back in his kayak to paddle if he capsized I was also carrying a military CO2 inflatable rubber survival raft as a back up. Since he started with the group I told him I felt responsible for him and wasn't going to just let him go out on his own half way through the day trip. I also explained that his route was not going to be as wave free as it had been when we came around that way because the wind had picked up during our lunch and his way back would also take a lot longer than crossing the bay. Once he made the short crossing in the waves he was elated he had done it and he felt he had learned a lot about handling his kayak in waves that he had been afraid to paddle in previously. conquering a fear is always a high. He thanked me for insisting he go with the group. Later we split the group. The weaker less experienced paddlers voluntarily made the more dangerous choice of getting into their automobiles and driving home. We more experienced paddlers chose the relative safety of another crossing out to an island and back in the wind and waves. Since we also had to drive home afterwards we only delayed our having to face the greatest risk that most people face in their lives. Statistically a driver living in an urban area has a 1 in 5000 chance of being killed in an automobile accident each year. Odds of serious injury are much more likely. Scary thought. Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Fri Jul 14 2000 - 21:26:36 PDT
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