I'll be interested in hearing what Bill Hansen's answer is ('cause I couldn't quite picture what he was describing), but just for reference check out http://fmg-www.cs.ucla.edu/geoff/prusik_knot.html for a nice reference on the prusik knot. It's basically a climber's knot - typically used to secure a loop of line to a "standing" line in a manner that will hold tight under pressure, but release and slide easily up (or down) the line when the pressure is removed. A climber can use two prusik loops to ascend a fixed rope by "walking" up the line by standing in the loops. Pressure on the left - the prusik tightens and holds, which allows the climber to take the weight off the right foot and slide the prusik up the rope - then put weight on the right and releasing the left and sliding it up. Slow going and typically done with mechanical ascenders these days. Not a very good description - I can tie them much more easily than I can describe them! Thus the web link... Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska Bill Leonhardt wrote: > > Whatsa prussik?? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Seng, Dave" wrote: > > I'll be interested in hearing what Bill Hansen's answer is ('cause I > couldn't quite picture what he was describing), Around here, when we say "Prusik cord" what we mean is 4-6 mm accessory cord, that pretty stuff sold in REI for 8 times the price of braided nylon. And which I use to tie boats down to my racks, because it's strong and easy to tie knots in. If I want to tie Prusik loops, I use it (5-6 mm), because the main paddling use of Prusik loops is as anchors in Z-drags, where the cord takes a lot of strain. Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 7/19/00 12:54:48 AM, bhansen2_at_twcny.rr.com writes: << Okay guys 'n' gals - my ignorance has been on display again. What I called "prussik line" is the braided nylon-dacron line which rock climbers use. Obviously I got the name wrong - and that means I don't know *what* to call the climbers' line. >> OK, go easy here. Bills just showing his years of experience. Back in the olden days, many people called nylon kernmantle lines "Prussik cord" because that's what they were used for. After Christ was born, we started calling the stuff by it's proper name "Perlon" or "Spectra" depending on the particular material. Some time in 1990's, for some strange reason it started to be known as "Accessory cord" or "Static line". And that's the truth! Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Steve Cramer wrote: > > Around here, when we say "Prusik cord" what we mean is 4-6 mm > accessory > cord, that pretty stuff sold in REI for 8 times the price of braided > nylon. Now that I read it _that_ way........duh! LOL - at myself - for making the answer a whole lot more complicated than it needed to be. A case of answering the question when I should have been questioning the question. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
You can also use a prusik on a "z-drag" to rig in up for greater mechanical advantage. Thinking rafting but I guess there is a parallel for climbing. Rafting as in getting a raft, or kayak, off of a rock or other obstruction. Andree Viewit.com - http://www.viewit.com/ New: Online Sales - GPS, Video - http://www.onwatersports.com Online Editor - http://www.canoekayak.com - August 2000 is live *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Speaking of climbing, any other rock climbers out there in Paddlewise-land? I'm curious because it doesn't seem to have a direct link to the sport like cross-country skiing (I don't think I've met many paddlers in these parts who don't ski in our off-season), but I do think that the sports share a couple of traits. I've been climbing for a little bit now and really enjoy it. This has lead me to do some thinking about activities and how they relate. So here is my question. What other activities do you do? How do you divide them up (ie how do you find time away from paddling to partake in the heathen non-paddling related activities)? Do you find the sports complimentary (XC skiing) or completely non-related (ummm, NASCAR racing) with no influence on your paddling skills? In addition to paddling and climbing I bike 2 or 3 times during the week. In addition to cross-country skiing in the winter. I see these as my main every day activities -- in other words things I can spend just a few hours doing during a busy week. Other activities (telemark skiing, camping - the non-paddling kind) are things that I love doing, but when it comes down to it, I only partake in them a few times a year. Thoughts? -Patrick At 5:04 PM -0400 7/18/00, Andree Hurley wrote: >You can also use a prusik on a "z-drag" to rig in up for greater >mechanical advantage. Thinking rafting but I guess there is a parallel for >climbing. Rafting as in getting a raft, or kayak, off of a rock or other >obstruction. > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net> wrote: -snip- > So here is my question. What other activities do you do? How do you > divide them up (ie how do you find time away from paddling to partake > in the heathen non-paddling related activities)? Do you find the > sports complimentary (XC skiing) or completely non-related (ummm, > NASCAR racing) with no influence on your paddling skills? > -more snippage- Well, okay... I admit it - I'm a closet bicyclist. Pretty much daily, I do what I call my Ocean Shores Triathalon: paddling, bicycling, walking/sitting/flying kite on beach (does that third part count as an athletic activity? - it does have three parts to it after all!). I do find the paddling and bicycling complimentary, but unfortunately, crunches are still a part of my daily routine as well. I do try to do things that don't seem like *exercise* to me (paddling and bicycling are just too fun to consider them a *workout* - crunches, on the other hand...). I'm open to suggestions for an activity to replace crunches - any ideas? I would love to learn more Yoga, but in the little town where I'm living at the moment, most people don't know the difference between Yoga and tahini. I do love skiing as well, but need to move to a place where there's a bit more snow in winter (still dreaming of Alaska). Well, that's enough computer exercise for now. Time to ride to the grocery store... Melissa Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 03:55 PM 7/18/00 -0700, Melissa wrote: >--- Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net> wrote: > >-snip- > >> So here is my question. What other activities do you do? How do you >> divide them up (ie how do you find time away from paddling to partake >> in the heathen non-paddling related activities)? Do you find the >> sports complimentary (XC skiing) or completely non-related (ummm, >> NASCAR racing) with no influence on your paddling skills? >-more snippage- > >Well, okay... I admit it - I'm a closet bicyclist. Pretty much daily, >I do what I call my Ocean Shores Triathalon: paddling, bicycling, >walking/sitting/flying kite on beach (does that third part count as an >athletic activity? - it does have three parts to it after all!). I just bought a new mountain bike though I mostly use it for riding around town, back and forth to work, and for riding from my house to the shop where I keep my kayaks (right on the water). Ithaca is very hilly and I live "up on the hill". I can literally push my bike out the driveway and coast about a mile until I get downtown. In the past few years I haven't skied as much as I used to even though there is a ski resort about 30 minutes from here. When I lived in California there were several years that I was driving to Lake Tahoe 250 miles away almost every other weekend to go skiing. I would say that I am a much better skier than I am a kayaker. I raced for the Hewlett Packard corporate ski team for three years. Other than kayak the other outdoor activity that I spend the most time on is flyfishing. I've been doing it for 27 years and fishing in general for about 40 years. I tied all my own flies and have built several flyrods. Fortunately, the best times of the year to fish around here are the early spring and late fall when the water is starting to get real cold (many mayflies start hatching in the spring when the water gets to about 50 degrees). Although I don't do it as much any more I used to play darts a lot. At one point I was competing on three different league teams and playing in 2-3 small tournaments a week. I once played an exhibition game against Dave Kelly, the first american to through a perfect game in international competition. I also once played against a guy in a tournament that had just beaten the number 1 ranked player in North America. I lost. >I do love skiing as well, but need to move to a place where there's a >bit more snow in winter (still dreaming of Alaska). Well, that's >enough computer exercise for now. Time to ride to the grocery store... Could you pick up some yoga for me? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net> wrote: > So here is my question. What other activities do you do? Bicycling, hiking. Kayaking takes away greatly from the other activities, which I find complimentary to kayaking when I can find time for them. Pre-canoe / pre-kayak, I bicycled at least 25 miles in the mountains one or both days every weekend. Now my bike is complaining of neglect. jerry. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
PaddleWisers... A lot of my money and time is spent on kayak camping, hiking, and motorcycles. The rest of it I guess I waste ! 8-> ...adieu ...Peyton (Louisiana) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Other than sea and (occasional) whitewater kayaking, I spend my free time playing racquetball (I was a pretty good tournament player not that many years ago), rollerblading, bicycling, hiking, and cross country skiing. I can also be easily persuaded to play ice hockey every so often. I get some canoeing in when I feel the urge, too. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
RE/ >> So here is my question. What other activities do you do? Windsurfing. Paddling for fitness in the summer, swimming in the winter. ----------------------- Pete Cresswell *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Speaking of climbing, any other rock climbers out there in > Paddlewise-land? Yep! > So here is my question. What other activities do you do? Mountain biking, hiking, camping, bird watching, flying, sailing. > How do you > divide them up (ie how do you find time away from paddling to partake > in the heathen non-paddling related activities)? Depends on the weather, and right now my hip which I dislocated in spring. Paddling and biking are definitely "in"! Hiking and climbing, I am hoping to be released to do again by September, which will coincide with the cooler weather.. > Do you find the > sports complimentary (XC skiing) or completely non-related (ummm, > NASCAR racing) with no influence on your paddling skills? I think they are all complimentary, even the non-related ones. :-) Alice *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Okay guys 'n' gals - my ignorance has been on display again. What I called "prussik line" is the braided nylon-dacron line which rock climbers use. Obviously I got the name wrong - and that means I don't know *what* to call the climbers' line. Anyway, I use "rope" (how's that?) of about 5/8" diameter to secure the kayks to the Yakima roof rack. I've also made 3 inch wide cradles for the bow and the stern, and the cradles are fixed to the crossbar of the rack. One "rope" goes around the kayak in front of the coaming, and the other goes around the boat behind the coaming. The "ropes" rea teid with a variation of a truckers' hitch and a couple of half hitches. Anyway, bow lines only for longer trips. Yeah, I do remember all of the excellent advice we got about both bow and stern lines the last time this thread ran. Bill Hansen Ithaca NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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