Hi Ralph, I should have tried out the Raytheons when I was at the Downtown Boathouse with Eric Stiller some years back! [ My first encounter with a Klepper!]. Thanks for your advice; you have a depth of knowledge on these things which makes P/W so worthwhile. It sounds like 'ease of use' and price would be the factors in choosing between Standard and Raytheon. The one-watt difference, 5w versus 6w is pretty meaningless in VHF terms of course, with antenna efficiency much more critical than output power. In my previous posting I sloppily misquoted the 'waterproof' standard BTW, apologies to P/Wisers. It is JIS-7. Cheers, peterR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
PJ Rattenbury wrote: > > Hi Ralph, > I should have tried out the Raytheons when I was at the Downtown Boathouse > with Eric Stiller some years back! [ My first encounter with a Klepper!]. > Thanks for your advice; you have a depth of knowledge on these things > which makes P/W so worthwhile. It sounds like 'ease of use' and price > would be the factors in choosing between Standard and Raytheon. The Apelco 520 and Raytheon 102 are new, i.e. the former only introduced about 2 years ago or so. So you would not have seen one around here back when you were here. Getting down to true waterproofness is a fairly new phenomenon. Until that happened I was reluctant to buy a radio that I had to keep awkwardly covered. Ease of use was the selling point for me eventually in choosing the Standard. But the Raytheon is quite a bit smaller than the Standard and, while its display is smaller, the Raytheon has done something to make it somewhat easier to see in broad daylight, a kinda luminescense toch to the background behind the numerals. You would not go wrong with either from what I can tell. > The one-watt difference, 5w versus 6w is pretty meaningless in VHF terms > of course, with antenna efficiency much more critical than output power. You would think so but I tend to believe that the company has gone through a lot of bother and expense to tweak out that extra watt for a reason. It must make a difference under certain situation. It is afterall x percentage greater wattage output. > In my previous posting I sloppily misquoted the 'waterproof' standard BTW, > apologies to P/Wisers. It is JIS-7. I think the JIS is for Japanese Industrial Standard if I recall correctly. Or maybe it is the Jonas Industrial Standard as in the Biblical guy who was caught in the belly of a whale, a good test of submersiblity of a radio. :-) cheers, ralph -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Peter, I have a pair of Raytheon 105's as well as a non-waterproof ICOM, and the 105's have definitely been waterproof. I have them tethered to 4 "key ring" floats that I picked up from a power boat shop, this gives them enough flotation to actually float. I've had them for 6-8 years and had one warranty replacement. When I first purchased them I took them down and tied them behind my kayak and towed them, and then dropped them into an outboard motor test tank with an outboard running in it to see if they were really waterproof and they continued to work (the one that was replaced failed about 2-4 years later). The nice thing with the warranty was that Raytheon had me ship in the unit, asked a few questions and replaced it, this was a much more pleasant experience than the one I had with Cannon over a waterproof camera that leaked, which I ended up paying for, and their repair resulted in a camera that died a few weeks later. I do have a question for Ralph. Where do you purchase new NiCads for the Ray-105's that you use? Thanks - Saul *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Saul Kinderis wrote: > > > I do have a question for Ralph. Where do you purchase new NiCads for the > Ray-105's that you use? There seems to be some confusion. The only Raytheon I am acquainted with is the Raytheon 102 (previously sold by Raytheon as the Apelco 520). It has a Nicad battery pack which can be bought directly from the company or through dealers. I think the Nicad pack costs in the $100 range. These radios have only been out for a few years (3 yrs?). I don't believe there were any VHF radios meeting the JIS-7 submersibility rating much more back than about 5 years. It is this level that is truly waterproof, i.e. capable of being submersed. ralph -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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