Hi, I am relatively new to the list. I have been reading everyone elses posts for a couple of weeks now. Currently I live on the Gulf coast of Florida a bit north of Clearwater. I have been paddling in one form or another for most of my life (age 42). However, as of this summer I have started sea-kayaking and love it. Admittedly the waters of the Gulf of Mexico tend to be rather low energy, but it makes for nice exploring of islands and mangroves. It seems that there are some very knowledgable paddlers on this list. Thus I would like to post a couple questions. I have been considering building a kayak. 1. I was wanting some feed back regarding Strip-Built S-B vs Stich-and-Glue S-G construction techniques? 2. Has anyone paddled a Guillemot kayak by Nick Shade and what did you think of it? 3. Has anyone paddled a Seawolf design by Roy Folland and what did you think of it? 4. Are there other designs that you would recomend instead of these and why? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 12:54 PM 8/15/00 -0700, Mark Hardies wrote: > 1. I was wanting some feed back regarding >Strip-Built S-B vs Stich-and-Glue S-G construction >techniques? I have built a stitch and glue, Pygmy Arctic Tern kayak. It was a fairly straightforward and pleasurable process. The directions and tech support were excellent. The boat itself handles quite nicely in all weather (and doesn't need a skeg or rudder). I have not built a strip boat, but I think that process is a good bit more time consuming, although strip boats are almost always stunning to look at. 4. Are there other designs that you >would recomend instead of these and why? Definitely check out Pygmy Boats. www.pygmyboats.com Kevin Kevin Whilden Your Planet Earth http://www.yourplanetearth.org (206) 788-0281 (ph) (206) 788-0284 (f) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have built a Chessapeake Light Craft 17LT which is a S and G kayak. It was not too difficult and they were great when I ran into a problem. I was surprised they were willing to help me since I was only building from plans and had not purchased a kit. Take a look at their site www.clcboats.com PS. I have just gotten started on a SB guillemont. :-) If you decide to build this boat, I would say buy the plans, I am lofting it from the book he sells and it is taking a long time. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark wrote: >1. I was wanting some feed back regarding Strip-Built S-B vs Stich-and-Glue S-G construction techniques? SB takes more time (not necessarily greater skill, but more time and patience), and also offers more design flexibility. S&G boats go together quicker, but their hull shape is constrained by having to be compatible with flat panels. >2. Has anyone paddled a Guillemot kayak by Nick Shade >and what did you think of it? I have one that I stretched from the designed 17' up to 18'. It is a highly maneuverable boat (read: poor tracking) so I wouldn't recommend it to a beginning paddler. At 21", it is a little bit tender, but easy to get used to. It's the tracking that most people complain about--I love it! It feels really good in waves--knifes through them rather than lifting or pounding. >3. Has anyone paddled a Seawolf design by Roy Folland >and what did you think of it? no >4. Are there other designs that you would recomend >instead of these and why? It's so very subjective. There are lots of handbuilt designs out there--I'd seriously recommend paddling a few. Do you have any favorite commercial glass or plastic designs? Look at the Redfish Kayak builder's directory to see if there are any builders of boats that interest you in your area. http://www.redfishkayak.com/directory.htm Shawn -- Shawn W. Baker 0 46°53'N © 2000 ____©/______ 114°06'W ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^\ ,/ /~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ baker_at_montana.com 0 http://www.geocities.com/shawnkayak/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark Hardies wrote: >1. I was wanting some feed back regarding > Strip-Built S-B vs Stich-and-Glue S-G construction > techniques? I have built a CLC Chesapeake 16 S&G and a Guillemot S-B. I don't feel that there is a big difference in difficulty in building with the two methods. Strip builts take more time and the results can be beautiful. Nick's Kayak Builders' BB is a great source of information on building techniques. http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-bin/Building/index.cgi >2. Has anyone paddled a Guillemot kayak by > Nick Shade and what did you think of it? I really like the handling of the Guillemot, but as Shawn says, it does not track well. Nick Schade's Expedition Single, which is slightly longer than his Guillemot design, tracks very straight. If you decide to built a stripper, buy a good book on the method. Nick's book is excellent, being very detailed, well illustrated, and a fun read. I used the offsets from Nick's book, put them into spreadsheets and printed out my forms. Once I had one spreadsheet set up with the formulae in place, I just had to save then substitute the next form's numbers, then save that as a new filename. It went quickly and was not difficult. >4. Are there other designs that you > would recomend instead of these and why? There are many good designs out there. It is best to try them out. John *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Intrigued with the idea of a sleeping hammock, I bought one of these things at REI a couple of months ago. For me, the idea still shows promise, but the Hennessy implementation doesn't suite me. The bug netting is too fragile - I ripped it in several places just practicing entering/exiting in my back yard.....and I'm 6'5" tall and the hammock about a foot too short. I suspect it could also use some sort of mini-spreader up around the head....but wouldn't bet too much on it... Anybody know of something bigger/tougher? Right now, I'm playing around with some nylon pack cloth - but realize that the whole Hennessy implementation is not quite as simple as it looks.... ----------------------- Pete Cresswell *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
(Pete Cresswell) wrote: > > Intrigued with the idea of a sleeping hammock, I bought one of these things at > REI a couple of months ago. > > For me, the idea still shows promise, but the Hennessy implementation doesn't > suite me. > Anybody know of something bigger/tougher? Right now, I'm playing around with > some nylon pack cloth - but realize that the whole Hennessy implementation is > not quite as simple as it looks.... > ----------------------- You might want to look into the hammocks made by a small company in New England, the Vermont Voyageur Equipment Co. I have not used one but was put on to by Mike Hughes from the Chesapeake Paddlers Assoc.. Mike is an ex-Marine and probably has a high threshold re discomfort. But from what I see of the hammock he doesn't have to test that fortitude. Here is the writeup on it from my May/June 1997 issue. Area codes have been changing in recent years and that one may not be right. And perhaps the small company is no longer in business but still worth checking. BEGIN FK EXCERPT M/J 1997----- Voyageur Hammock and Tarps. These are made by a small company in Vermont, Vermont Voyageur Equipment, that specializes in high quality camping gear. The backbone of the business is the Hammock costing $71. It comes in two sizes, one for people up to 6 feet tall, and the other for taller individuals. The hammocks weigh 1.5 lbs. and 1.9 lbs. But the tarps to go over them are extra (see below). I have not used the setup but seen it displayed by Mike Hughes, a hardshell paddler from Maryland. The Hammock is all nylon. Two layers of breathable nylon line the bottom. This reduces stretch and sag plus adds strength. The top is nylon with mosquito netting panels at the ends. It comes with 8 feet of cord for each end. From what Mike reports, this is a real comfortable hammock to sleep in. There is a grommet in the roof material just above the chest and this helps raise the top away from you with an extra cord and cordlock. And you can also use the Hammock as a bivy shelter when you can’t find trees. You do need the tarp, though. You have two choices, the Rain Tarp or the Expedition Rain Tarp. The first is 9.5 feet by 9.5 feet and weighs just 2 pounds for the standard size and 2.2 pounds for the tall (10 feet long). Cost is $66. So basically you are looking at about 3.5 lbs for the total shelter. The color is a muted green and khaki. It comes with strong line, corner webbing loops, etc. to give you some versatility in staking down. It can either be used to protect the Hammock or act as a hanging out tarp shelter for two people. If you want the ultimate in protection, there’s the Expedition Rain Tarp that has ends that close with snaps. It can shelter more people and stop heavy driving rain from coming in at the ends. It costs $117 and weighs 2.7 lbs. To find out more call 802-326-4789. ---END ARTICLE best, ralph ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Ralph wrote, "You might want to look into the hammocks made by a small company in New England, the Vermont Voyageur Equipment Co. I have not used one but was put on to by Mike Hughes from the Chesapeake Paddlers Assoc." I've got one --- again, bought with Mike's endorsement --- and can vouch for its toughness and usability. Excellent piece of gear. Used it in Alaska and the Yukon, where it came in very handy --- vice sleeping on cobbles! Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Pete, > Functional Equivalents? > > Intrigued with the idea of a sleeping hammock, I > bought one of these things at > REI a couple of months ago. > > For me, the idea still shows promise, but the > Hennessy implementation doesn't > suite me. The bug netting is too fragile - I > ripped it in several places just > practicing entering/exiting in my back > yard.....and I'm 6'5" tall and the > hammock about a foot too short. I suspect it > could also use some sort of > mini-spreader up around the head....but wouldn't > bet too much on it... > > Anybody know of something bigger/tougher? Hammocks .... I've been living in Brazil off and on for the past 20 years ... and everyone sleeps in hammocks. When you travel to visit someone or go to the interior, you take your hammock with you. They even make custom hammocks for about $ 25 - 30 that are 'double' for couples. Brazilian hammocks do not use spreaders. And they rollup into a roll that is smaller than most sleeping bags. They also sell in every hardware store a 'chain' that is very handly for wrapping around a handy tree limb, rafter, etc. (Most Brazilian houses have built in hooks that fold away into a wall fixture ... my beach house could accomodate 70 hammocks). In the 1970's I spent 8 months traveling down the Brazilian coast ... sleeping in my hammock every night ... sometimes on the veranda of some fisherman's house ... sometimes tied up between two coconut trees. Most Americans do not know how to sleep in a hammock ... attemping to sleep lengthwise .... the secret is to sleep 45 degrees across the hammock ... your back is straight and they are very comfortable. Bug netting is available also (we used in the Amazon) ... I am not in the 'hammock' import business .. but I might be willing to purchase and ship by mail an occasional hammock or two for fellow kayakers at cost. We have dozens of hammock shops around town and they are available even in the street fairs. They even have street venders passing along the beaches with dozens of hammocks over their shoulders. Andetur Brazilian Travel Club - Capt. Donald R. Reid TOUR OPERATOR & COORDINATOR - NATAL, RN, BRAZIL Website: http://www.andetur.com/ Email: mailto:dreid_at_andetur.com SEA KAYAKS DO BRASIL - http://www.andetur.com/Brazil/Projects/sea_kayak.htm) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
RE/ >... and everyone sleeps in hammocks. When you travel to >visit someone or go to the interior, you take your hammock >with you.... > In the 1970's I spent 8 months traveling down >the Brazilian coast ... sleeping in my hammock every night >... sometimes on the veranda of some fisherman's house ... >sometimes tied up between two coconut trees. I find that encouraging. My motive is to develop some sort of sleeping device/system that I can adapt to and take with me. Right now, if I go on the road (thankfully rare....) or vacation (unfortunately rare...), or to my daughter's place at the shore the first few days are lost - I'm just sort of stumbling around in that daze that someone who needs 8 hours of sleep gets into after only getting 2 hours. Succeeding days are better, but I still need about 10 hours in the rack to get 7 hours sleep.... I think I'll try the Voyageur tall person's hammock first - just because somebody intentionally designed it for tall people... If it doesn't work out, you may find me begging for something from Brazil. Thanks Donald and thanks Ralph! ----------------------- Pete Cresswell *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 11:09 AM 8/16/00 EDT, JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com wrote: >I've got one --- again, bought with Mike's endorsement --- and can vouch for its toughness and usability. Excellent piece of gear. Used it in Alaska and the Yukon, where it came in very handy --- vice sleeping on cobbles! > An additional benefit of the hammock - if it's a cold night your paddling partners can keep you warm in your hammock via a simple collection of small sticks placed under the lowest part of the hammock. Right Joq? Greg Welker Current Designs Pisces, with sail rig CLC Cape Charles modified West Wight Potter 19, #448 "Wight Magic" "Good seamanship is using superior judgment to prevent the need to use superior skills." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
RE/ > Right now, I'm playing around with >some nylon pack cloth - but realize that the whole Hennessy implementation is >not quite as simple as it looks.... Well, as mentioned already, I bought the Hennessey. Then I bought the Clark Jungle Hammock. IMHO Clark has it pretty well nailed except for size. Then I bought a hunk of 1,000 denier nylon cordura that is 15 feet long and five feet wide....plus some windbreaker taffeta, some no-see-um netting and a beeeeeg spool of heavy nylon thread. A little heming, a little stitching and.... voila! Just strung it up in the back yard, tossed in a polartec blanket and a few pillows, crawled in, and darn near fell asleep.... It looks kind of ridiculous: 13 feet end-to-end...but the extreme length means that the shoulders don't get squeezed like they do when you're head is near the end of a shorter hammock. The extreme width is functional too: when you draw up one or both knees, the knee is resting on the cordura instead of where the mosquito netting would be. OTOH, when the legs are straight out, the sides kind of envelop you....I'm not sure whether that is good, bad, or indifferent...time will tell... Sixty feet of #7 delrin coil zipper is supposed to arrive tomorrow or the next day and then we'll get on with it..... I'll probably commence all-night sleep testing this weekend. "Real-world" experience may change my mind later, but right now it's looking to me like the hammock is highly underrated as a sleeping tool. ----------------------- Pete Cresswell *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Any jpgs available? I'd love to see this beauty. I may have started the hammock talk a few months ago (can't recall -- I know I bought one and raved about it here). But it never seemed viable to me as a sleeping place, just a relaxing place. Would like to explore the sleep angle more, as it could be useful on rocky coasts where I paddle. Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
RE/ >Any jpgs available? I'd love to see this beauty. I uploaded them to Zing. Zipper didn't get here yet, so no mosquito net or windbreaker. The design is really simple, just a rectangle with a sleeve at each end for rope. Also at each end, there's another piece sewn on top of the base, which will serve as an edge for the zippers which will go all around the edges of the hammock. With a few pillows and a polartec blanket folded up as a pad, I'd rate comfort at or above the bed I sleep in....but I haven't spent a night in it yet...so that opinion could change... ----------------------- Pete Cresswell *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Pete, That's a very interesting hammock. It seems to me an animal of a different sort. I think you may be on to something here. You ought to patent the damn thing before it gets around, and market rights to make it, or market the thing itself. As for covers, yeah, I've had amazing luck using those cheap blue poly tarps for all kinds of things. They're usually available real cheap in the late Fall at the various marine supply stores. Anyway, thanks for the jpgs. Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
RE/ >Pete, > >That's a very interesting hammock. Is that like the reputed old Chinese curse "..may you live in interesting times..."? -) I'm suspending judgement until I've slept in the thing every night for a month. I can't imagine it would be very marketable because there just aren't that many people out there with such elongated bodies that are both willing to try a hammock and aren't concerned with weight.....My guess is that most hammock sales are to backpackers who want the weight reduction compared to a tent... ----------------------- Pete Cresswell *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I can't imagine it would be very marketable because there just aren't that many > people out there with such elongated bodies that are both willing to try a > hammock and aren't concerned with weight.....My guess is that most hammock sales > are to backpackers who want the weight reduction compared to a tent... You're probably right. That's the problem with so many good ideas. Just not enough people making up the market for them to inspire anyone to enter into production. I have always thought that a good hammock would be a great idea for kayaking along rocky coasts -- like parts o the Caribbean, Maine, Ireland, many other places -- where landing on a nice beach with a flat place to camp is not always an option. If you can pull up on a rocky section and take some chocks and lock some cable into a couple of rock sections and string a hammock between them, you can sleep anywhere. The boat could be strung up the same way. Perhaps a bit of a crazy idea, but seems viable to me. Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sorry, not a long, neat trip report this time -- but for several months, when I've run into local kayakers on Lake Hudson, my normal paddling grounds, I've been accumulating a mailing list toward a get-together sometime. One of these acquaintences suggested a night paddle sometime would be fun, and the fuse was lit. We decided the October full moon would be a good time, and between us sent out invitations to local paddlers we knew, and a few people I've met via e-mail through my web page. We wound up having a nice paddle on a flat lake under a big harvest moon. Participants ranged from poke boats through glass sea kayaks, and we all had a good time. But the reason for making this post is that one of the participants pointed out that at this time of the year, cheap chemical glow sticks are available in the Halloween decoration sections of the chain and discount stores like Target and WalMart, at a real good price. These work just as well as markers for a casual night paddle than the more expensive kind. If you're considering night paddling in the next year or two, the Halloween season is a good time to stock up on these little goodies. -- Wes *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The answer to this question depends under what jurisdiction you paddle, i.e. the part of the world. In Canada kayaks, canoes, rowboats etc. are not required to have the red and green running lights. The only requirement for those is to carry a white, waterproof lightsource (flashlight) when operating in poor visibility conditions (dark, fog etc.). And even that is afaik only required on bodies of water which a navigable and under CCG/DOT jurisdiction. On the local pond and lake one can likely do and carry whatever pleases. In other parts of the world the rules may be different Ulli *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holtzman" <sh_at_actglobal.net> > Not only does this not apply to kayaks, but it can be dangerous since it can > confuse other ships or boats that are not used to seeing the reg and green > lights so close together. Actually, a red/green light in one light fixture or apparatus is a pretty standard setup available for use on dinghies and rubber rafts. They are sold in marine shops. I have not noticed any recall of these being demanded by the Coast Guard or the marine industry as being dangerous or improper. I don't believe there is any issue having been brought up by any authority or interested party on width between lights. Some larger boats may have them just inches apart at their bow; I have seen illustrations of such. There seems to be no standard as to exact such placement except the obvious one of one being on the starboard side and the other on the port side. The US Coast Guard publishes an official booklet titled Federal Regulations and Safety Tips for Recreational Boats. It is an effort to simplify the Rules and make clearer on the lights situation that there are preferences and requirements. Here is what it states and illustrates on Page 24: ------------------------ "For Vessels Under Oars If your vessel is under oars, then it should display lights for a sailboat (Figures 3 or 4), if practicable. As an option, your vessel may carry a flashlight or lighted lantern that can show a white light in sufficient time to prevent collision. (See Figure 7)" ------------------------ That Figure 7 depicts two people in a row boat where one is pulling on the oars and the other is shining a white light in the air. Figure 3 mentioned as what would be the preference ( "it should display") for a vessel under oars "if practicable" comes from the requirement for a sailboat less than 65.6 ft long. It shows a red light and green light up at the bow that appear to run a range from almost touching each other to perhaps several feet apart from the bow's apex. It also has a white light at the very stern. Figure 4 also mentioned as a preference for a vessel under oars as in the first sentence in the previous paragraph has a different light setup. The displayed light is up at the very top of the mast of the sailling ship and appears to be an all-in-one light fixture containing red and green at the front and white at the back. Or it could be three separate lights but in very close proximity to each other. I draw a couple of points from all this: --Some people have maintained that it is illegal to display anything other than the white light. Clearly that is not correct. --Personally, I am happy to see the Coast Guard really looking into the situation from a sensible safety standpoint. It is ludicrous for a single kayaker to be depending for his/her night paddling safety on dropping his/her paddle, reaching for and turning on a flashlight and start waving it. In busy waterways you would probably get few paddle strokes in and be at even more danger because a crossing is taking you forever. ralph diaz *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Just in case you go to the Amazon, take your hammock, unless you have chartered a boat. The normal transportation boats have hooks on which to place your own hammock, but do not provide hammocks. My only knowledge comes from the area around Manaus in the Amazon and Rio Negro. Fortunately, I was guest on a client's 120 foot sailboat that had AC, hot water and some lethal fruit punch, but I did take a good look at the hammock filled boats. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Sailboat Restorations, Inc. <sailboatrestorations_at_worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Hennessy Hammock: Functional Equivalents? > > I can't imagine it would be very marketable because there just aren't that > many > > people out there with such elongated bodies *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 8/15/00 5:47:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fafnir_at_frontiernet.net writes: << I have built a Chessapeake Light Craft 17LT which is a S and G kayak. It was not too difficult and they were great when I ran into a problem. I was surprised they were willing to help me since I was only building from plans and had not purchased a kit. Take a look at their site www.clcboats.com PS. I have just gotten started on a SB guillemont. :-) If you decide to build this boat, I would say buy the plans, I am lofting it from the book he sells and it is taking a long time. >> I built an adaptation of the Yare from CK's book a few years ago. The plans in the book were easy enough to follow ... adding my adaptations took time :-) The boat is doing sterling service when I'm not out in a folder ;-). Ralph Hoehn Ralph_at_PouchBoats.com http://www.PouchBoats.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I built a Chesapeake LT17 with only a little woodworking experience. It was really satisfying and I love how the boat handles. CLC was also really helpful and patient during the dozens of times I contacted them for advice. Courtney *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 07:39 PM 8/15/00 -0700, Courtney wrote: >I built a Chesapeake LT17 with only a little woodworking experience. It was >really satisfying and I love how the boat handles. CLC was also really >helpful and patient during the dozens of times I contacted them for advice. I built a CLC Northbay XL last winter and also love it. Lee and John from the shop at CLC are very helpful and you can get a lot of good tips from other CLC builders from their BBS at http://www.clcboats.com/forum/bbs.pl/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John F. wrote: > I built a CLC Northbay XL last winter and also love it. Lee and John from > the shop at CLC are very helpful and you can get a lot of good tips from > other CLC builders from their BBS at http://www.clcboats.com/forum/bbs.pl/ I've been thinking about building one of these. God only knows why. I love my Caribou, and I'm not sure the Northbay would be that different. But it strikes me as a fun project. John, do you mind if I ask, the boat is very narrow (20") and quite long (18'6") -- how would you compare it to a boat like the Caribou? I've never paddled a boat that narrow. Also, have you weighed the completed boat? If this subject has already been covered here on PW, I apologize -- perhaps John could reply to me directly, if so. TIA. Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I recently completed a strip-built kayak (Nantucket) designed by John Winters armed with the design, some advice from John, and Nick Schade's book. The entire process took about a year but it was an easy year and very, very enjoyable. I have minimal woodworking skills but the boat turned out almost too beautiful to use. I am very pleased with the results and would build another in a heartbeat. After paddling it for three months I like the way the boat handles, but, of course, I'm probably not very obective. : ) Richard *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark, A really good source of information if you want to build a kayak is available at: http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/cgi-bin/KBbbs.cgi Its run by Nick Shade of Guillemot kayak, and really does well at covering all the options. Vendors are discouraged from expressing opinions about competing kayaks, but end users are welcome to express any opinions they want. This question in some form or another comes up fairly often. The general consensus is that all the major players offer plans/kits for good kayaks. Pick a style and the features you want in the kayak and don't worry so much about which vendor you got it from. I ended up building two Pygmy "coho" stitch and glue kayaks (they were local, so it was easier to test paddle the pygmy line). Most people who have built a pygmy kayak had a good experience with the kit, and most that built a CLC or Guillemot have also had the project work out well. There are stylistic differences and some differences in the suggested steps to build. Some people like the curved deck of the CLC, others prefer the peaked deck and less forcing of a curve on the pygmy style. A complete kit (with panels precut) is one of the faster or easier option. building a S-G from plans will take more work, as will building a S-B. The redfish strip built kayaks I've seen are just gorgeous. One of the least expensive options for buiding is a skin on frame. A big part of the cost with S-G or S-B is the fiberglass and epoxy. You do have more design flexibility with the strip built, but more labor. Some of the pygmy multi-chine kits give sort of a compromise between that, you get a bit more rounded hull using several chines vs a single chine on some stitch and glue kits/plans. Now that I've built the multi-chine coho, I'm actually interested in building a hard chine kayak, like an Artic Tern, or I might try a different vendor. Or I might try a a strip built or a skin on frame. dave *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Dave Uebele wrote: > One of the least expensive options for buiding is a skin on frame. The cheapest (useful) skin/frame I know of was about $60 worth of materials. Saplings with a blue tarp don't count ;-) > Or I might try a a strip built or a skin on frame. For anyone interested in pursuing skin/frame there's a mailing list on the topic (also hosted by the marvelous folks at intelenet). There are archives of the list at http://robroy.totalsports.net/baidarka http://www.pacifier.com/~qajaq has lots of pictures of skin/frame boats put together by Harvey Golden http://www.arctickayaks.com is David Zimmerly's site, it is primarily historical craft. Zimmerly is selling the offset sheets and drawings for the craft on the site. For books: "Building the Aleutian Kayak" by Wolfgang Brinck is a good builders manual "Baidarka" by George Dyson is good for inspiration and lots of pretty pictures "Qajaq" by David Zimmerly (which has just been released in the fourth printing) is basically the book on which the arctickayaks site is based. George Putz also has a book on building skin/frame kayaks (I prefer Brincks construction methods) kirk admin for the baidarka (skin/frame) mailing list *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dave Uebele wrote: > >Now that I've built the multi-chine coho, I'm actually interested >in building a hard chine kayak, like an Artic Tern, or I might try >a different vendor. Or I might try a a strip built or a skin on >frame. > >dave hee hee... I think you've got the right idea (perhaps consider changing the or to an and - or at least to an and/or). Just keep in mind that your boathouse will have to expand as your fleet does! I too, am interested in building/paddling all these different types, and it never hurts to have a few (or quite a few) boaties around for when friends drop by. Melissa *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: Kirk Olsen [mailto:kolsen_at_imagelan.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 6:48 AM > > http://www.pacifier.com/~qajaq has lots of pictures of > skin/frame boats > put together by Harvey Golden http://home.pacifier.com/~qayaq/ seems to be the correct URL. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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