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From: Rob MacDonald <robm_at_udl.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Secondary Stability: Reductio Ad Absurdum
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:06:30 -0800
I have a Gloucester Light Dory gives brings anyone stepping into it an
immediate and graphic definition of "initial" and "secondary" stability.  

At low angles of heel, this boat is "tender", very tippy, and anyone
standing in this boat and incautious enough to lean or step to one side gets
a heck of a shock as the boat suddenly heels.  Then, the secondary stability
kicks in, and the boat stops heeling, suddenly.  

In order to put the gunwhale under, I have to sit on the edge of the boat.
It can't really capsize, as as soon as the gunwhale goes under, it wants to
come back up again.  Even completely swamped, it will return to an upright
position, like a Popeye punching bag.  A breaking wave could rotate it
completely, but this is the only way I could see actually turning the boat
over.  Of course, fully swamped, it is impossible to bail dry, but that is
another problem.

The real problem is that as it comes up against the secondary stability, it
stops, and anyone standing is quite likely to get pitched over the side
(banging their shins painfully on the way).  Then, the immense secondary or
ultimate stability (and high freeboard) would make it difficult or
impossible to get back aboard.  

(Fortunately, I have discovered this boat's stability characteristics by
deliberate test in neck-deep water, not "under fire" in breakers.  In most
conditions, just stay seated, and the boat will take great care of you.
Stand up, and it will try to chuck you out.)

This boat has a narrow, flat bottom, hard chines, and immense flare.

I offer it as an example of a boat with some of the characteristics that
Matt and John have been trying to describe with curves.  

Is there any way you gentlemen could post pictures of the stability curves
you are describing?  

It might be instructive to "design" hypothetical vessels, same length, same
displacement, no rocker, no taper, just a midship section 15 feet long or
so, to let everyone get a feel for the factors which affect stability.  I
realize, rocker, taper etc. do affect stability, but it would be good to try
and isolate some of the factors, then see what they do to the stability curves.

Rob.



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From: Nick Schade <schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Secondary Stability: Reductio Ad Absurdum
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:34:27 -0500
Another boat with similar response is the Adirondack Guideboat, which 
has a relatively narrow waterline and a lot of flare. I created an 
example kayak to show this kind of stability curve which you can see 
at: http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/Example.gif

  This boat is designed specifically to illustrate some of the 
concepts. I suspect that if anyone ever built this example it would 
fall well into the category John calls "notchy" and probably be quite 
annoying to paddle. But this shape permits a narrow, easily driven 
shape, while maintaining overall stability. Features which are 
valuable in working boats such as the Gloucester light dory or the 
Adirondack guideboat. Some sit-on-tops use this concept to permit a 
stable boat with a high center of gravity yet still be easily paddled.

Nick


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