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From: Looze, John & Donna <looze_at_gemstate.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Cameras - Lenses and Waterproof
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:31:59 -0700
Choosing any camera, waterproof or not, is a series of compromises.  Just like
buying a new boat.


    If you want "memory" pictures, most anything from a disposable to a
reusable waterproof will jog your memory.  If you want good quality photos,
ie, suitable for enlargement, you will need a quality 35 mm and a Pelican case
or watertight housing.  The difference between these two extremes is not the
camera body, but the lens.  In between them, there are not really any good
choices  I am aware of this, because I looked long and hard for a waterproof
with a quality lens.


    If you opt for the memory photos, the other thing to consider is the best
quality photos generally have the least in them.  Too much is too distracting.
That favors the telephoto.  On the other hand, if it is only memory, very
little emphasis on quality, a wide angle lens will put more in the photo for
you to remember.  


JKL





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From: Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cameras - Lenses and Waterproof
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:26:46 -0500
> 
> Choosing any camera, waterproof or not, is a series of compromises.  Just like
> buying a new boat.

Absolutely true.  
> 
>     If you want "memory" pictures, most anything from a disposable to a
> reusable waterproof will jog your memory.  If you want good quality photos,
> ie, suitable for enlargement, you will need a quality 35 mm and a Pelican case
> or watertight housing.  The difference between these two extremes is not the
> camera body, but the lens.  In between them, there are not really any good
> choices  I am aware of this, because I looked long and hard for a waterproof
> with a quality lens.

In my experience(qualification: I have no interest in looking at
photograph of a resolution chart, especially with a magnifying glass),
lens quality has little bearing on the sharpness of an image. The
anchoring of the camera by the photographer and the mechanics of the
equipment has a greater impact.  I shoot the street with a pair of
leicas (m3 and cl) which produce excellent images, not because of the
lenses but rather the weight and ergonomics of the camera and the lack
of mirror mechanism (+ and wide lenses).  My honeywell pentax sp1000
does just as fine on a tripod as a studio camera to shoot my work.  I
used to print 11x14 (full frame) tri-x.  I had a Rollei 35s that was a
tiny bit contrastier, so it had a bit more apparent sharpness in my
diffusion enlarger (focomat).  All in all though, sharpness wasn't that
important anyway unless it was distracting to the image.
As to quality, sharpness has little to do with the quality of an image. 
The early pictorialists would kick the tripod of their large format view
cameras during long exposures to get a soft look to their prints. 
Robert Frank made potent images across America and published the seminal
book called "The Americans" with little concern to sharpness (or rinsing
fixer from the prints). Linda Connors used a pinhole camera to make
rather soft and beautiful images (a couple in the show "Mirrors and
Windows" at MOMA in the 80's). There was a rage for a very low rez
digital camera toy in the early 90's by graphic designers for its soft
focus, blocky image abilities.

Those little disposable waterproof cameras have great potential if you
look at it's capabilities and work with it's nature.
> 
>     If you opt for the memory photos, the other thing to consider is the best
> quality photos generally have the least in them.  Too much is too distracting.
> That favors the telephoto.  On the other hand, if it is only memory, very
> little emphasis on quality, a wide angle lens will put more in the photo for
> you to remember.

Wow, sounds like this came out of a 'take better pictures' photo book of
the 30's  
Wide is more inclusive.  There are implications of proximity issues with
a subject, can be confrontational because of having to get in closer for
framing.  It's abilities of a greater depth of field makes for equal
consideration to the background and foreground, associations not
generally made with natural vision because of selective focus.  It has
been the favorite of a documentary or journalistic attitude toward
photography (big generality).  tending toward a content driven approach
(also a big generality and could be debated)
A long lens is more selective.  It is generally harder to conceal,
pretty obvious to subject.  It collapses perceived depth perspective,
tends to 'flatten' images.  MOre selective focus.  Very useful for
satellite imagery and research. A shorter zoom  tends render a more
visually comfortable perspective for portraits and three dimensional
geometric shapes such as furniture.  Adopted by many formalists (nature,
landscape) with more of a a reductionist attitude (also slippery big
generality).

Both are very different, both can be used for 'quality' photography.

There is something quite lyrical about your analysis however.

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