In a message dated 1/31/01 8:01:58 AM, cramer_at_coe.uga.edu writes: << I was interested in seeing Joan's and Jed's comments on the difficulty of rolling a Gulfstream. I embarrassed myself this summer trying to roll a GS in front of a batch of paying customers. Anne covered me by smoothly going into a bow rescue demo, so I didn't look totally useless. OTOH, I test paddled a 2000 Gulfstream last spring and it rolled OK. >> You all are great for the ego. I was wondering if it was just me or it really isn't that simple to roll. <<The rep told me that the depth of the cockpit was one of the things CD changed in the GS's current design. Huh? That would be Current Design's Gulfstream's current design, I guess.>> Actually they changed the seat from the 1999 to 2000. I have a 1999 that I pulled the seat out of and put my own foam seat into so I'm even deeper in the boat. <<Anyhow, I would agree with Jed and Kevin: practice your roll in the easier boat until it's effortless, then move it over to the harder boat. >> My gelcoat thanks you <G>. I have to return to the GS every few weeks just because the Breeze gets boring, it is so easy. I've been working on shifting from one side to the other under water, trying to figure out how to get the paddle to come with me more easily. I often run out of air trying to get back into a set up position. I also have been working on the off side, which is a total loss on the GS right now. So, even if I "should" be working with the GS on the basics, I'd be playing with the rest of the upside down stuff in the Breeze. I need to try Woody's boat again to see if the seat makes a lot of difference. I haven't rolled his boat since last spring, and then it was easier than mine. Is higher easier? Joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: <JSpinner_at_aol.com> To: <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rolling > I have to return to the GS every few weeks just because the Breeze gets > boring, it is so easy. Hrm, this is a telling statement that something is amiss. The boats just shouldn't be that different, especially if your outfitting is much better in the GS. Without seeing your roll, I would guess that it is part technique and part mental. It is quite possible that you use good technique in the Breeze and poor technique in the GS. Or it is possible that your technique is marginal in both boats, however if you have a really strong hipsnap, it should be possible to roll just about anything. What might help is if you try to describe your roll in the GS in detail, particularly focusing on the point where you think the roll fails. > I need to try Woody's boat again to see if the seat makes a lot of > difference. I haven't rolled his boat since last spring, and then it was > easier than mine. Is higher easier? > Ya know, I can convince myself either way just by thinking about it. I don't think I'll have time to try out my theories any time soon, but I would guess that being lower in the boat is easier to roll... up to a point. If the cockpit coaming is too high on your body, it will inhibit the bending of your torso to the side (which is much more important than being able to lay back). Kevin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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