You know, Ralph Hoehn's brief history solved a curiosity I have had for years. Working in the aerospace industry for years, and also have in big interests in aircraft design and history, I always thought it was kind of odd that a company like Grumman would make canoes and light fishing boats. They seem to me to be totally different technology and market categories than their main business which was making some of the most advanced combat aircraft in the world as far back as WW 2, super advanced for their times the A-6 Intruder and the F-14 Tomcat just is worlds apart from canoes. And personally I saw nothing particularly innovative about their hull designs in terms of hull performance. But Ralph's mention of the post war boom of manufacturing inexpensive water craft made the connection for me. Like all of the giant manufacturing firms after the war, they had to find some other market or simply close down, which many of them did. What better way to make use of all that surplus aluminum and expensive tooling and factories that the government had already paid for than make consumer products? I know two of my previous employers Northrop and Boeing had tried making commercial ships and rail cars in their factories after the war (both were financial failures, I have read, I am not old enough to know first hand). So likely it was Grumman that used the tooling and cheap surplus aluminum to make canoes and light fishing boats. I would presume they were profitable since they have retained that market for many years. It is difficult to imagine tooling up to build aluminum canoes in a relatively small market and making it profitable unless much of the factory costs and materials were basically free or a fraction of their original costs. It would also put what I imagine was an innovative new way to make a canoe on the market fairly inexpensively, opening new markets for all paddle and motor powered water sports. I do not remember hearing or reading about aluminum canoes prior to WW 2, perhaps others who know more can comment. It also seem to me that the first wide spread us of fiberglass for both boats hull and other consumer products also started about the post war period as well. And if you takes Ralph's comments about plastic hulls referring to fiberglass, not roto-molding, than his statement would be accurate. After all epoxy and polyester are plastics. And I can not think of when the first fiberglass sea kayaks were built, but I'm sure it was after WW2 as well. Perhaps Matt or Cam would know the answer to that. Were there any commercial sea kayak manufactures prior to 1960? If so, prior to WW2? [except the folders of course] And what were they making them out of. ISTM that all of the ones I have seen prior to about 1970 were homemade skin on frame, or fabric folders. If not than I would say it was the post WW2 canoe and light boat makers that made the current boom in sea kayaking possible. Does either Ralph or Matt Boze or anyone else know of any factory kayaks besides folders prior to 1960? Were there any fiberglass sea kayaks made before 1960 or WW2? It would confirm that there was no viable business in sea kayaks prior to the current interest. Peter *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Feb 13 2001 - 16:34:37 PST
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