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From: Rob Dee <plz_at_swbell.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:59:04 -0600
In a recent posting, Melissa mentioned a fellow that stood up in his
kayak to exit onto a dock... providing all in attendance with a good
laugh.
She said " luckily he did not hit his head on the dock while
disappearing into the murky depths"
This put me in mind of a recent back channel tip that I gave someone.
One of the first safety rules that I learned was to put on my PFD before
I even approach the water.
I had read that more people injure themselves launching and exiting on
land than they do in most other boating incidents, and when I slipped on
a cement boat ramp and fell into the water I was lucky on two
counts...That I only whacked my elbow and not my head...And that I had
read that tip about starting out in your PFD.
As a fairly new kayaker I find the ongoing information shared on this
list to be often amusing and  invaluable to those of us just "getting
our feet wet".

Thanks to all who contribute!

Rob Dee
Austin, Texas

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From: <JSpinner_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:35:37 EST
In a message dated 3/14/01 11:25:13 AM, plz_at_swbell.net writes:

<< I had read that more people injure themselves launching and exiting on
land than they do in most other boating incidents, and when I slipped on
a cement boat ramp >>

My own take on this is that the getting in and out is that it is the event 
most likely to provide humor and embarrassment. The first time I paddled a 
glass boat we stopped at a pebbly beach and I didn't want to scratch the 
boat. I had never perfected the behind-the-cockpit exits and I was unable to 
get my leg up because the cockpit was smaller than I was used to with my 
plastic boat. I ended up literally flipping the boat on its side as my paddle 
slid away from me. I had to slither out of the now swamped boat much to the 
amusement of the guys fishing on the pier.

Joan
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From: Dave Uebele <daveu_at_sptddog.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:18:56 -0800
Absolutely, and not just for kayaks. I've been tempted to bring a video
camera to the local boat ramp to capture some footage for one
of those "real TV" sort of shows. 

With all the trouble mentioned getting into and out of kayaks,
I think the bigger, trailer boats still take the cake for foolish things
happening getting into and out of the water.
Good ammo to bolster yourself next time you worry about embarrassing yourself
in front of other boaters while getting into a kayak....

I've seen trailers not hooked correctly, so as they try to pull the trailer
away from boat and out of the water, the trailer unhooks and stays in the 
water.

I've also seen someone get their boat on the trailer (pulled on with winch), 
but forget to set the one way ratchet on the winch. As they pull out, 
the winch unwinds, the boat falls off the back of the trailer, and is dragged
up
the boat ramp.  

And of course, just watching most people try to back a trailer down a ramp.
or trying to launch at low tide when there isn't any more ramp...

And I've done my share too. paddling along in an estuary with my daughter
on my lap.  peaceful, calm, smooth water.  Paddle back to shore, brace myself
and swing one leg out to start climbing out, only to realize my leg has
fallen asleep and I overturn as I try to put weight on a non functional leg.

At this same location, I've had someone berate me for wearing a PFD, all
the time going on about how he likes to run class 4 rivers....

So approach the water with a bit of care, humility, and some spare, dry
clothes close at hand.  

Anything you do to return safe and sound is a good thing, and realize that
even with the best precautions, you will have days when you are playing
the fool for someone else's amusement. Get over it, laugh along with
everyone else.

JSpinner_at_aol.com wrote:
> My own take on this is that the getting in and out is that it is the event
> most likely to provide humor and embarrassment. 

-- 
Dave Uebele (daveu_at_sptddog.com)	 Spotted Dog Systems
http://sptddog.com/daveu.html
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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:01:23 -0500
At 11:18 AM 3/14/01 -0800, Dave Uebele wrote:
>Absolutely, and not just for kayaks. I've been tempted to bring a video
>camera to the local boat ramp to capture some footage for one
>of those "real TV" sort of shows.

When I was a kid we used go to a campground/marina in the Sacramento/San 
Joaquin river delta.  Next to the two lane boat ramp they had built some 
bleachers
where one could watch people load their power boats after a long day of
drinking beer.  It was highly entertaining. 

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From: Alex Ferguson <a.ferguson_at_chem.canterbury.ac.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:00:11 +1300
>One of the first safety rules that I learned was to put on my PFD before
>I even approach the water.

Even more important, wear a seat belt while driving to the put-in. We had 
to go to the national sea kayaking forum last weekend - past one fatal and 
one near fatal vehicle accident, plus also the Paddlewiser who recently had 
a vehicle accident.

The near fatal accident happened an hour before we got to it - a milk 
tanker up a tree!!! Imagine something like a Mack truck with the front 
15-20 foot up a tree!!!!!

Wear your seat belt while driving.

Alex
.
.
Alex (Sandy) Ferguson
Chemistry Department
University of Canterbury
New Zealand

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From: Alex Ferguson <a.ferguson_at_chem.canterbury.ac.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:56:30 +1300
 > One of the first safety rules that I learned was to put on my PFD before
 > I even approach the water.

Even more important, wear a seat belt while driving to the put-in. We had 
to go to the national sea kayaking forum last weekend - past one fatal and 
one near fatal vehicle accident, (plus also the Paddlewiser who recently 
had a vehicle accident) - getting dangerous out there on the road.

The near fatal accident happened an hour before we got to it - a milk 
tanker up a tree!!! Imagine something like a Mack truck with the front 
15-20 foot up a tree!!!!!

Wear your seat belt while driving.

Alex
.
.
Alex (Sandy) Ferguson
Chemistry Department
University of Canterbury
New Zealand

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From: Hal Levine <hlevin_at_jlc.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:44 -0500
> > One of the first safety rules that I learned was to put on my PFD before
> > I even approach the water.
>
>Even more important, wear a seat belt while driving to the put-in. 
(and from)

AND don't forget your sunscreen!

Hal

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From: Mark Paxton <paxtonm_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:35:05 -0800
No wonder you're all bumping into each other -- you drive on the wrong side 
of the road! ;)

>We had
>to go to the national sea kayaking forum last weekend - past one fatal and
>one near fatal vehicle accident, -- getting dangerous out there on the 
>road.
>
>The near fatal accident happened an hour before we got to it - a milk
>tanker up a tree!!! Imagine something like a Mack truck with the front
>15-20 foot up a tree!!!!!
>
>Alex (Sandy) Ferguson
>Chemistry Department
>University of Canterbury
>New Zealand
>

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From: Alex Ferguson <a.ferguson_at_chem.canterbury.ac.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Safety first...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:03:48 +1300
MP -
>No wonder you're all bumping into each other -- you drive on the wrong 
>side of the road!

Actually a large part of the world drives on the same side as us including 
the major car manufactures if you consider the Japanese major. Population 
numbers, Japan and India alone make up a hefty number....

The two accidents I mentioned, a woman (in a 4WD vehicle) drove over a 
cliff on an easy bend after a very tight section and just before another 
VERY slow section (100 metres between the 2 sections). We saw the wreck 
being recovered about 8.00 p.m.

The "professional" tanker driver rolled the empty tanker on a straight 
section of road just after coming out of a speed restricted area, 9.00 p.m. 
on a Monday

!!!!!!??????

Accidents by foreigners make up about 1% and as they surely are less than 
1% of the drivers, not a good record, though our officials didn't look at 
the numbers that way (1% - not a big number). Often the froreign drivers 
aren't used to the narrow windy roads or at times, gravel roads. There was 
one section, recently sealed, where the foreign accident rate was about 50% 
of the accidents on that road and it was not a popular road for tourism 
i.e. not a major route.

Also remember that Japanese drive on the same side of the road as us though 
they have the advantage back home of always having someone in front to 
follow where as here there might not be another car on the same road for an 
hour.

Alex
.
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Alex (Sandy) Ferguson
Chemistry Department
University of Canterbury
New Zealand

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