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From: merijn wijnen <merijn_at_music.demon.nl>
subject: [Paddlewise] New boat: fitting out the deck
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:32:44 +0200
Hi all, 

Thanks for all the good replies to my questions. It again shows how 
nice this forum is if you have a question on anything related to 
kayakking.

I asked about a running bowline. Some people thought I wanted do 
discard decklines altogether. Actually, it never entered my mind to 
have no decklines and toggles, I consider them to be a 
indispensable safety device. But what about adding a running 
bowline to the existing rigging, is that worth the effort and deck 
clutter?

Rainer Schroeter send me off list the idea to use a reed switch with 
a magnet to switch an electric pump. That is quite an interesting 
idea, as it does not require a hole in the deck nor a waterproof 
switch.


Happy kayakking

Merijn





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From: <JSpinner_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] New boat: fitting out the deck
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:54:17 EST
In a message dated 3/26/01 5:03:09 PM, merijn_at_music.demon.nl writes:

<< I will have to modify the boat a bit. First thing is mounting a  
compass. Has anybody experience with building a compass recess  in an 
existing deck? And what brand of compass? 
I still am thinking about deck layout, as there are few lines on the  
deck now. I might ad a running bowline, but am not sure if it is worth  
the effort and clutter on the deck.  >>

#1-why recess it? That seems an unnecessary hole in the boat. If you really 
want it attached just construct a mount and just drill the holes for the 
mounting hardware. I don't do any surf or water that would rip a compass from 
my deck so I have a rig of a foam mount hooked to the deck lines by hooks. 
Not a perfect fit but it works for what I need it for.
#2-I strongly disagree with the idea that deck lines aren't essential. There 
needs to be something to hang onto on every inch around the boat. Even with a 
bombproof roll the need to breathe may force you out of your boat. What will 
you grab as the wind/waves pull you and your boat apart? Clutter is like 
weeds, things where you don't want them. Decklines may save you anything from 
irritation to loosing your boat at the worst possible time.

Joan Spinner
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From: Bill Leonhardt <WJLeonhardt_at_bnl.gov>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] New boat: fitting out the deck
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:21:58 -0500
At 11:18 PM 3/26/01 -0500, Bob Denton wrote:

SNIP
>
>I have two Nordkapps, one has the compass recess in the bow just ahead of
>the hatch and the other has the compass recess on the deck. I prefer the
>compass in the bow. It doesn't take up any space under the deck and it's
>easier to keep your eye on your heading. It's also supposed to reduce a
>tendency for getting seasick. I have also cut out the FG seats and fitted it
>with a minicell seat that sits directly on the hull...less weight and more
>stability.

 SNIP

Hello Paddlewisers,

Just a thought about recessed compasses.  On my boat I have a recessed
compass about 6 inches (15cm) forward of my cockpit.  I bought the boat
second hand and was glad to have the compass.  In use 'tho, the compass is
in the way of deckbags and any other gear I want to secure just ahead of
the cockpit.  Additionally, I belong to the older set of people who find it
easier to see things further rather then nearer.  I'd move the compass but
it is recessed and I'd have to deal with the hole.

If I wanted to install a recessed compass in a boat without one, I would
really consider doing it in the forward hatch cover.  The advantages appear
to be:

1. The compass is out of the way of near cockpit storage.
2. Further away is better for old folk's focussing (perhaps a seasick
benefit, too).
3. You can work on modifying the cover off the boat so it's easier to make
the hole.
4. If you make a really bad mistake installing the compass, it's easier and
cheaper to buy a new hatch cover.
5..........

Any thoughts from the list?

Bill Leonhardt  

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