[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] >From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com> > >On my Toyota canopy-equipped PU, I mount the forward rack over the center of >the cab and the rear rack at the rear of the canopy. Do you have any problems with flexing between the cab of the truck and the bed putting strains on your kayak? It strikes me that you would be better off with both the front and rear rack at the ends of the canopy/bed shell. That way both mounting points are on the same vehicle structural component. I keep thinking about buying a Toyota truck and would probably get a camper shell and add a rack to that (considering that I've put about 20% of the miles on my dad's Toyota truck I should probably buy my own, it does great hauling a ton of rock). Mel "When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl." ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have a small Toyota PU with a fiberglass canopy - Century brand, with the rack mounted on the top front and back of the canopy. It required drilling a number of holes to mount the plates. The plates and rack were Yakima. It has worked great for 11 years now - never a leak, no stress cracks and I get no flexing at all. Has been very stable under all driving conditions with multiple boats on top. It is very convenient having the entire assembly on the canopy. In addition, the bars are close enough to mount other toys like bikes, windsurfers etc. -----Original Message----- From: Mel Grindol [mailto:grindol_at_my-deja.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:38 PM To: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Cc: dkruger_at_pacifier.com Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Trucks w/canopies [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] >From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com> > >On my Toyota canopy-equipped PU, I mount the forward rack over the center of >the cab and the rear rack at the rear of the canopy. Do you have any problems with flexing between the cab of the truck and the bed putting strains on your kayak? It strikes me that you would be better off with both the front and rear rack at the ends of the canopy/bed shell. That way both mounting points are on the same vehicle structural component. I keep thinking about buying a Toyota truck and would probably get a camper shell and add a rack to that (considering that I've put about 20% of the miles on my dad's Toyota truck I should probably buy my own, it does great hauling a ton of rock). Mel "When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl." ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ ************************************************************************ *** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ************************************************************************ *** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Michael Stoccardo wrote: > > I have a small Toyota PU with a fiberglass canopy - Century brand, with > the rack mounted on the top front and back of the canopy. It required > drilling a number of holes to mount the plates. The plates and rack were > Yakima. It has worked great for 11 years now - never a leak, no stress > cracks and I get no flexing at all. Has been very stable under all > driving conditions with multiple boats on top. It is very convenient > having the entire assembly on the canopy. In addition, the bars are > close enough to mount other toys like bikes, windsurfers etc. This is the way Yakima wants you to do it. I pulled a Frank Sinatra ("I Did It Myyy Way") because it allowed me to move everything forward, so the yaks only overhang the rear bumper some 3 feet. Also got plates at the front of the canopy for bike racks, etc. Michael's method is Yakima-approved. Mine is not. No leaks or cracks, after three seasons of rough use. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mel Grindol wrote: > > >From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com> > > > >On my Toyota canopy-equipped PU, I mount the forward rack over the center of > >the cab and the rear rack at the rear of the canopy. > > Do you have any problems with flexing between the cab of the truck and the bed putting strains on your kayak? It strikes me that you would be better off with both the front and rear rack at the ends of the canopy/bed shell. That way both mounting points are on the same vehicle structural component. I was concerned about that at first, also. There is flex, probably the reason Yakima does not endorse the arrangement I use. There was less flex when I used this arrangement on a Mazda PU. A canopy manufacturer told me Toyotas were notorious for lots of flex. However, the flexing has never been a problem, even on rough roads. Traveled on a couple very long hauls with yaks up top, which included an aggregate of a couple hundred miles on very rough logging roads. I suspect one of the reasons the flexing seems not to hurt my yaks is that there is a distance of some 8 feet between racks. Note: I use saddles up front and Hully Rollers in the rear. And, I have never seen any wear marks from yak motion side to side or front to back. On the Mazda, I had saddles fore and aft, and, again, never saw any wear marks. My yaks suffered more when a strong outfitter lashed them to racks on a Zodiac, back in '98, and took off on a heavy swell day. Oh, yeah, same trip an 8-inch diameter branch fell onto the nose of one. Gel coat crack, but no structural damage. YMMV. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mel Grindol wrote: > > [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] > >From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com> > > > >On my Toyota canopy-equipped PU, I mount the forward rack over the center of > >the cab and the rear rack at the rear of the canopy. > > Do you have any problems with flexing between the cab of the truck and the bed putting strains on your kayak? It strikes me that you would be better off with both the front and rear rack at the ends of the canopy/bed shell. That way both mounting points are on the same vehicle structural component. I would think this as well Mel, but I can see a couple of mechanical methods of alleviating the small amount of counter stresses. Both components are still on the same frame. > > I keep thinking about buying a Toyota truck and would probably get a camper shell and add a rack to that (considering that I've put about 20% of the miles on my dad's Toyota truck I should probably buy my own, it does great hauling a ton of rock). This is what I use (toyota, cap and rack), made an A frame out of cedar that never distorted the plastic boats I used for 2 years resting them on their beams. Snapped a webbed ratchet buckle once going down the highway at 70+, the kayaks didn't move with the redundancy bow and stern lines. got pictures: http://www.studiofurniture.com/diary/kayak/racks.htm#b cost about 40.00 US and folds up (everything is hinged). I think the design could be easily modified for a kind of universal removable car rack. -- ¤ Gabriel L Romeu ¤ http://studiofurniture.com + /diary or + /paint *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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