Duane said: Paddlewisers, I know there are a lot of you out there who love to read about paddles gone wrong...<snip> I once had a paddle like that. Raised it from a wee baby, gave it my best parental efforts; never paddled it for being bad, and even took it to church. But alas, it got in with the wrong crowd. It's epidemic these days: paddles that have gone wrong. I should have used tough love. :-) You also said: The Northern Four Channel Islands crossings trip that Jim Gabriel and I completed is also in the newsletter, but never mind it, because it has already been scrutinized for egoism, bad seamanship, and recklessness on this list. It's funny how it's OK screw up, but if you achieve something, people want to tear you down. Now Duane, really, we didn't tear you down because you achieved something. We tore you down because we like to tear you down. Get it right man! ;-) :-) Seriously, if you are referring to the criticism over the foggy crossing, you (et al) might be interested to know that statistically, clear weather is more likely to produce collisions -- and not just because more people are on the water. Apparently, mariners are much more lackadaisical during clear, nice weather, and are less prone to be on the lookout, etc. Just some trivia from BC's marine scene. Doug Lloyd (who's mother told him not to keep picking scabs; good advice?) PS Separate subject. Should I be using this for my smiles- ::-) ? I wear glasses, so I'm a "four eyes". *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_telus.net> > Seriously, if you are referring to the criticism over the foggy > crossing, you (et al) might be interested to know that statistically, > clear weather is more likely to produce collisions -- and not just > because more people are on the water. Apparently, mariners are much more > lackadaisical during clear, nice weather, and are less prone to be on > the lookout, etc. Just some trivia from BC's marine scene. Interesting statistic. Not that surprising, though. I would guess that a lot of the collisions are alcohol related and people tend to be more "cautious" in unfamiliar settings. Also, a lot fewer boats out on the water in fog. > PS Separate subject. Should I be using this for my smiles- ::-) > ? I wear glasses, so I'm a "four eyes". No. You should use 8-) Or... ()-) for your sports glasses. Or a blindfold for paddling in fog []-O Which could end up as X-/ or &-P Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>> From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_telus.net> > >> Seriously, if you are referring to the criticism over the foggy >> crossing, you (et al) might be interested to know that statistically, >> clear weather is more likely to produce collisions -- and not just >> because more people are on the water. Apparently, mariners are much more >> lackadaisical during clear, nice weather, and are less prone to be on >> the lookout, etc. Just some trivia from BC's marine scene. Maybe a little off topic, but maybe germaine: Over the weekend, I happened across an extremely interesting website: http://www.cargolaw.com This site is run by a Los Angeles law firm that specializes in customs, marine law, etc. They're particularly interested in cargo losses during transportation, marine accidents, and the like. Anyway, this is quite a website -- I spent four hours on it over the weekend, just skimming the surface. The site is not particularly well laid out, but there is just so much stuff there that it's unbelieveable. For instance, they keep a running log of ship accidents, losses, and piracy. Some parts of the world, piracy is endemic. IIRC, two moderately large ships have been stolen by pirates since the first of the year. In one case, the crew was set ashore on a desert island, and later rescued by natives. Or, would you believe that there were 21 ship sinkings around the world in Feburary alone? Some were little, coasters, fishing boats, etc., but there were some fairly big ones, too. (Admittedly, many if not most were third world ships.) I had no idea that in this day and age commercial maritime traffic was that dangerous. But, it does show that first, there are some people on these ships that aren't real bright, and second, that the sea still can bite, big ship or paddle boat. -- Wes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wes Boyd's Kayak Place http://www2.dmci.net/wesboyd/kayak.htm Kayaks for Big Guys (And Gals) | Trip Reports | Places To Go | Boats & Gear --------------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug wrote: "...the foggy crossing, you (et al) might be interested to know that statistically, clear weather is more likely to produce collisions -- and not just because more people are on the water. Apparently, mariners are much more lackadaisical during clear, nice weather, and are less prone to be on the lookout, etc." Some mariners aren't particularly careful in fog either. I paddled across to Williamstown last Saturday, and put ashore when a bank of fog rolled in. I didn't want to recross the shipping lanes until it cleared. Container ships were sounding fog horns. I killed a bit of time inspecting the time ball tower, then carried the boat in over a shallow rocky area to launch. Visibility at this time, about 200 metres. Fairly calm water, a little chop starting to build up. While getting the spray skirt on, I heard an outboard motor offshore and peered out towards where the noise came from. It took a while for a 20' runabout to emerge, travelling straight in towards the shallow, rocky, reefy shoreline, doing about 10 knots. It'll turn now, it'll turn now... it didn't turn at all until striking rocks in shallow water full on! All hands came onto the rocking deck, all clutching beer cans. My guess is a crew of PWC pilots, in a hired boat. I'm now in the market for a small foghorn. Peter Treby 37º 42' S 145º 08' E *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
-----Original Message----- From: Wes Boyd [mailto:boydwe_at_dmci.net] Maybe a little off topic, but maybe germaine: Over the weekend, I happened across an extremely interesting website: http://www.cargolaw.com For instance, they keep a running log of ship accidents, losses, and piracy. Some parts of the world, piracy is endemic. IIRC, two moderately large ships have been stolen by pirates since the first of the year.>> ________ As I work at the Maritime Safety Authority I see a lot of the privacy broadcast messages and there are many attacks. This particular one took my interest as I wondered what they would do with the cargo 15.03.2001 at 1955 lt in position: 00:37.0s - 05:25.04e off riau island, indonesia.while underway, armed pirates boarded a general cargo ship and hijacked her. soon after, pirates tied up and blindfolded the 22 crewmembers and dropped them on pulau sayap, an uninhabited island in riau waters. local fishermen picked up the crew on 17.03.2001 and took them to riau island landing them at 0400 on 18.03.2001. the ship along with her cargo of tin plates plus concentrates and pepper worth us_at_2.1 million are missing. David Australia *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Jacki, you show potential as an artist. Got any more? Joan > > PS Separate subject. Should I be using this for my smiles- ::-) > > ? I wear glasses, so I'm a "four eyes". > > No. You should use 8-) > > Or... ()-) for your sports glasses. > > Or a blindfold for paddling in fog []-O > > Which could end up as X-/ or &-P > > Jackie > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Jacki, you show potential as an artist. Got any more? > > Joan > What?!? You haven't seen my kayaking ascii images? Well then, you need to get on over to http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/ascii-art.html :-) These images were all inspired by past discussions on different paddling lists. Cheers, Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
No, I'd never been there before, but that was my loss. These are truly wonderful. I especially loved the playful dolphins - but the various alligators were fun, too. Thanks for sharing. Joan > What?!? You haven't seen my kayaking ascii images? Well then, you > need to get on over to > > http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/ascii-art.html > > :-) > > These images were all inspired by past discussions on different > paddling > lists. > > Cheers, > > Jackie > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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