I am curious to know what concoctions people are using for bug repellents? Anything really great? Ron *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Anything really great? Bite Blocker is pretty good, and Deetless. Tom Joyce *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I use Mil surplus that comes in a plastic tube. It's made by 3M and is a slow release formula that helps keep the deet from being absorbed by the skin. I've occasionally seen the consumer version in stores. Works in the Glades... cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: <Froggie405_at_aol.com> > I am curious to know what concoctions people are using for bug repellents? On the water - nothing. At the campsite I just wear bug-proof clothing. Tightly woven nylon pants (such as the infamous MEC Rad pants) keep my legs fine and a cotton & mesh, hooded bug shirt on top. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Froggie405_at_aol.com wrote: > > I am curious to know what concoctions people are using for bug repellents? > Anything really great? > > Ron I like Avon's Skin So Soft because it is a sunscreen and repellent combined. I find it very effective at keeping black flies away, but less so for mosquitoes. Mosquitoes don't seem to be much of a problem in daylight when I am on the water anyway. They are more of a problem at my campsite in the early evening. -Bob Matter Hammond, Indiana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Daly" <michaeldaly_at_home.com> > From: <Froggie405_at_aol.com> > > > > I am curious to know what concoctions people are using for bug repellents? > > On the water - nothing. At the campsite I just wear bug-proof clothing. Tightly > woven nylon pants (such as the infamous MEC Rad pants) keep my legs fine and > a cotton & mesh, hooded bug shirt on top. When I was in graduate school at Columbia Univ., I arranged some hikes for fellow students on to some nice hiking paths not far from the city. These were aimed mainly at out-of-towners who I felt were getting too narrow an impression of the Big Apple and its concrete canyons. One guy from Virginia (also a VMI graduate and who later I think disappeared into the bowels of the Green Berets) came hiking one day. We had hordes of mosquitoes to deal with. This guy proceeded to swat away at them when they landed on his face, neck and arms. Only catch is that he left the bloody smear of their smashed bodies on him in at least a dozen places. I asked him why. He replied "As a warning to the others!" I can't say whether it was effective but he sure looked scary to other hikers we ran across who gave us a real wide berth. :-) ralph diaz-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have a friend who had a serious reaction to DEET and ended up in the hospital. I try to avoid it and use the citronella based repellents. I also have a great bug shirt from The Original Bugshirt Company. These are comfortable and really work. I really hate getting off the water, cleaning up and then smearing on some awful bug goop. Bugs have never bothered me on the water. Another tip is to pack along a pair of cotton garden gloves. Keeps those mosquitos off your hands when cooking or sitting around. -Patrick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Where I live (North-West Scottish Highlands) the deaded Highland midge is the scourge of the land. The only repellent I have ever found to help is, in fact, not a repellent at all. It is a product made by Avon (the cosmetics firm not the inflatable rafts!) called "skin so soft". I was introduced to it by a friend who was police sergeant based in Kyle / Plockton. We used it when we went mountain biking. It's sligthly oily and makes you smell like the waiting room in a brothel (so I've been told - I wouldn't know, honest) but the stuff really does make a difference. What seems to happen is that the midges land on you, try to bite but the "skin so soft" seems to kill them - maybe it clogs them up, or maybe the perfume does for them. We would return absolutely palstered with dead midges, but without a single bite. I don't know whether it would work against mosquitoes or blackfly, but it's worth a try - hell, ANYTHING is worth a try against those little devils. Nick -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of Patrick Maun Sent: 09 April 2001 22:48 To: PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] bug repellents I have a friend who had a serious reaction to DEET and ended up in the hospital. I try to avoid it and use the citronella based repellents. I also have a great bug shirt from The Original Bugshirt Company. These are comfortable and really work. I really hate getting off the water, cleaning up and then smearing on some awful bug goop. Bugs have never bothered me on the water. Another tip is to pack along a pair of cotton garden gloves. Keeps those mosquitos off your hands when cooking or sitting around. -Patrick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Nick Reiter wrote: > > Where I live (North-West Scottish Highlands) the deaded Highland midge is > the scourge of the land. The only repellent I have ever found to help is, > in fact, not a repellent at all. It is a product made by Avon (the cosmetics > firm not the inflatable rafts!) called "skin so soft". I was introduced to > it by a friend who was police sergeant based in Kyle / Plockton. We used it > when we went mountain biking. It's sligthly oily and makes you smell like > the waiting room in a brothel (so I've been told - I wouldn't know, honest) > but the stuff really does make a difference. What seems to happen is that > the midges land on you, try to bite but the "skin so soft" seems to kill > them - maybe it clogs them up, or maybe the perfume does for them. We would > return absolutely palstered with dead midges, but without a single bite. I > don't know whether it would work against mosquitoes or blackfly, but it's > worth a try - hell, ANYTHING is worth a try against those little devils. > > Nick Yes, Skin So Soft is very good at repelling blackflies. Dead coho salmon wash up on the shores of Lake Michigan and they attract lots of blackflies. When you stop on the beach for a break you are quickly attacked and bitten by them. And they follow you into your boat. SSS washes off in water, so if you apply it to your feet and step in the water getting in or out of your boat, it will wash off and the blackflies will bite you. I haven't had as good of luck with SSS against mosquitoes. Maybe I was sweating and it was rinsing off. The active ingredient in SSS masks the smell of some chemical your body gives off so insects can't detect you. You are basically invisible to them. Once I was at an outdoor party and everyone was getting eaten up by mosquitoes but me. I attributed it to my eating heavily garlicked homemade spaghetti sauce for the previous two days. -Bob Matter Hammond, Indiana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Nick Reiter wrote: > > Where I live (North-West Scottish Highlands) the deaded Highland midge is > the scourge of the land. The only repellent I have ever found to help is, > ... "skin so soft". Skin-so-soft also works on the Caribbean sand fly, which I think may have emigrated from Scotland with the colonists in the 18th century. I have a friend who home-brews a repellent. As I recall the recipe/formula, you start with mineral oil (maybe try s-s-s instead?) and add sulphur, oil of wintergreen, oil of clove, and some other oil I can't remember. Smells to high heaven, but he swears by it. Another trick from the South Georgia marshes is to wipe your skin down with a Bounce (tm) fabric softener sheet and then stick it half under your hat, so you look rather Legion Etranger-ish. Works for gnats, but doesn't do much for mosquitos. -- Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
When I went to the everglades a couple springs ago, I picked up a concoction of deet + skin so soft (about 7% deet). It's called skintastics. The deet being suspended in an oil seemed to make it possible to spread out a very thin layer, which serves to limit the amount of toxin I was putting on. I'd put just the tiniest squirt on ea appendage and then spend a minute or two rubbing so as to spread it real thin. I do have to admit that 2 or 3 times when attacked verociously by mosquitos that I used my partners cutter aerosol max deet spray. But it is a bummer to crawl in the sleeping bag saturated with bug poison. -- Mike McNally mmcnally3_at_prodigy.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Probably would smell like you were marinating something, to a passing bear. > Nick Reiter wrote: snip > I have a friend who home-brews a repellent. As I recall the > recipe/formula, you start with mineral oil (maybe try s-s-s instead?) > and add sulphur, oil of wintergreen, oil of clove, and some other oil I > can't remember. Smells to high heaven, but he swears by it. -- Mike McNally mmcnally3_at_prodigy.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Nick Reiter" <reiter_at_fodderty.u-net.com> > Where I live (North-West Scottish Highlands) the deaded Highland midge is > the scourge of the land. What's a midge? Would that be similar to sand fleas in the US? Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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