While I found the first 2-3 days of paddle postings to be interesting, they have started to become way too long and way too technical IMHO for the list readers. At least for me and I speak as an engineer, not a non-technical person. While they are on the subject of paddling, I think they are past the point of no return. Maybe the folks who are still interested could take them off line and provide a summary (if you ever get to the end) of what you decided. Of course I could be wrong. --Mel-- =^..^= http://home.earthlink.net/~mslammers mslammers_at_earthlink.net mellammers_at_mellammers.net bagboater_at_yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bagboater http://www.mellammers.net http://www.geocities.com/mslammers *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mel and Group: I sympathize, and I have not read most of them thoroughly (some not at all) but if we're voting, I like the open forum. Tom Joyce <SNIP> While they are on the subject of paddling, I think they are past the point of no return. Maybe the folks who are still interested could take them off line and provide a summary (if you ever get to the end) of what you decided. ------------------------------------------ The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any further disclosure or use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: "Mel Lammers" <mslammers_at_earthlink.net> > While I found the first 2-3 days of paddle postings to be interesting, they > have started to become way too long and way too technical IMHO for the list > readers. Well, I dunno about that. Seems to be a lot of folks involved in the discussion and it has spawned a couple of other threads. I find some of it interesting even if I don't catch all of it. Maybe with a bit of friendly persuasion, the experts will come down to our laymen levels and give us some examples in terms we can understand better. But I don't see that the list has become overwhelmed on a discussion that is on-topic. My .02 anyhow. Cheers, Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 5/19/01 1:00:38 AM, jackie_at_intelenet.net writes: << Well, I dunno about that. Seems to be a lot of folks involved in the discussion and it has spawned a couple of other threads. I find some of it interesting even if I don't catch all of it. Maybe with a bit of friendly persuasion, the experts will come down to our laymen levels and give us some examples in terms we can understand better. But I don't see that the list has become overwhelmed on a discussion that is on-topic. >> I agree. I'd love to understand all that stuff. Examples help. I keep going, "What's that mean?" Joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>From: "Joyce, Thomas F." <TJoyce_at_bellboyd.com> >Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Enough with the Scientific Paddle Analysis >Mel and Group: I sympathize, and I have not read most of them thoroughly >(some not at all) but if we're voting, I like the open forum. I usually like the open forum but this thread is getting way too technical for me. Doesn't anybody paddle for fun anymore? Steve Holtzman *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The thread is getting technical, true, and some of it consists of highly suspect physics -- of b*ll sh*t, not to put too fine a point on it. But the thread is redeemed by postings from such people as Matt Broze and John Winters (see John's 05-19 7:20 am message, for example), who know what they're talking about. So I say let's keep the thread going! Maybe rename it "Paddle design - technical" or something like that, so people who don't want to read the message can delete it quickly. Jack Fu ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net> <snip> > I usually like the open forum but this thread is getting way too technical > for me. > > Doesn't anybody paddle for fun anymore? > > Steve Holtzman *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Jack, You raise some very good points. Thanks for pointing out the fallacies in my original thoughts. Every once in a while, I need to have someone switch me back to the right track. This time it was your turn. You're right, the posting by John Winters did do a lot to take some of the pseudo-science and b*ll sh*t out of it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Fu [mailto:SeaDogJack_at_cablespeed.com] > > The thread is getting technical, true, and some of it consists of > highly suspect physics -- of b*ll sh*t, not to put too fine a point > on it. > > But the thread is redeemed by postings from such people as > Matt Broze and John Winters (see John's 05-19 7:20 am > message, for example), who know what they're talking about. > So I say let's keep the thread going! Maybe rename it "Paddle > design - technical" or something like that, so people who don't > want to read the message can delete it quickly. > > Jack Fu > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net> > <snip> > > I usually like the open forum but this thread is getting way > too technical > > for me. > > > > Doesn't anybody paddle for fun anymore? > > > > Steve Holtzman > > > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: "Jack Fu" <SeaDogJack_at_cablespeed.com> > But the thread is redeemed by postings from such people as > Matt Broze and John Winters (see John's 05-19 7:20 am > message, for example), who know what they're talking about. I'll second that! You'd have to be pretty dense not to understand John's latest post with very easy-to-understand examples. I was able to grasp the *entire* post and by doing so, have realized some misinformation I've been given in the past about paddle choices. For those who haven't read it, take a look. You'll see the light. John has done a great job at bringing us lay-folks back into the discussion. Thanks, John! :-) Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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