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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Hydration systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:58:18 EDT
What's the collective wisdom of this fine list with regard to hydration systems --- something beyond the liter of Gatorade under the bungees?  I'm thinking of the Camelbacks, the on-deck bags, the under/through-deck reserves, etc.  With a relatively high center of gravity and a bunch of <20" beam boats, I'm not that excited about adding two liters of solution on my back, but I haven't seen that much that's easy and clean for on- or under-deck installation, and would welcome any and all ideas!  

Thanks.

Jack Martin
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From: <Strosaker_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Hydration systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:57:54 EDT
Jack,

When I am in the tripping mode, I use a 10 liter dromedary from MSR with 
their drinking tube system.  I put the bag on the floor of the cockpit, right 
in front of the seat, tether it in, and have the drinking tube come up 
through the sprayskirt waist tube.  This system has several advantages.  The 
center of gravity is as low as possible.  If I my kayak tends to tilt to one 
side due to uneven gear loading, I can correct for it by moving the dromedary 
to the opposite side.  The dromedary makes an excellent cushion to rest my 
legs on during long paddles (a waterbed for the legs).  Also, the drinking 
tube allows for hydration while still paddling and in rough seas, when it 
would be difficult to drink out of a bottle.  The only downside is that it 
makes exiting and reentering the kayak more difficult (it can get in the 
way), but my motto is "Roll or Drown!"

Duane
Southern California

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From: <volinjo_at_juno.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Hydration systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:04:28 -0400
I don't like to have anything on my deck.  I used a camel type bag one
season - attached it with carabiners at each end to the bungies.  But it
slid back and forth as I leaned the boat, and that bothered me some. 
What was more annoying, was that every time I got out of the kayak, I
forgot that I had the drinking tube clipped to my PFD, and it sprung off.
 I kept thinking the PFD would tear, or the hose would hit me in the
face.  Also, the hose developed an "off" taste after awhile.

Now I have a knee tube under my deck, and I stick my water bottle in
that.  I have to open the spray skirt to get to it, but that's not a
problem.  (In real conditions, hardly anyone says, "oh, I think I'll have
some water now")

Joan

On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:58:18 EDT JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com writes:
> What's the collective wisdom of this fine list with regard to 
> hydration systems --- something beyond the liter of Gatorade under 
> the bungees?  I'm thinking of the Camelbacks, the on-deck bags, the 
> under/through-deck reserves, etc.  With a relatively high center of 
> gravity and a bunch of <20" beam boats, I'm not that excited about 
> adding two liters of solution on my back, but I haven't seen that 
> much that's easy and clean for on- or under-deck installation, and 
> would welcome any and all ideas!  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jack Martin
>
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From: Bob Denton <gulfstream_at_flinet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Hydration systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:27:58 -0400
I tried the hydration systems and decided they were more trouble then
they're worth. I use a fanny pack designed to hold a sports bottle,
modified with two pieces of bunjii and 4 stainless clips so it sits on
the apex of the deck and clips to the deck fittings. Having the bottle
at the apex keeps it away from the paddle and handy. The nice thing
about this system is there's no cleaning up of bags and tubes...just
toss the empty bottle in the water! 

(Just kidding)

I use an insulated Polar cycling sports bottle and usually freeze all or
most of the contents. The insulated bottle will still have some ice
after many hours of paddling, even under the Florida sun.

cya



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From: <volinjo_at_juno.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Hydration systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:11:16 -0400
, but my motto is "Roll or Drown!"
> 
> Duane
> Southern California
> 
> 
In a similar vein, I bought a t-shirt from Florida Bay Outfitters when a
couple of P-Wisers got together at Sandy Kramer's place, that says,
"Paddle or Die."  The owner of the shop said that's his way of saying 
"no towing."

Joan
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From: Lewis, Roy <Roy.Lewis_at_novistar.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Hydration systems
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:19:40 -0500
Well I think it depends on the situation.  Casual paddling I prefer just a
couple of 1 ltr bottles with gatorade or water that is typically frozen
before I leave the house.  For marathon racing, I use platapus bags (same as
the camelbacks) usually 2 Ltr with the zip lock on one end, (makes it easy
to mix gatorade or add ice).  I can carry 2 2ltrs, one on each side of me
next to my thighs.  I fastned some d-rings to attach some lightweight nylon
pouches that secure the water bottles.   I also freeze my first batch of
gatorade in the platapus bags.  The tubes on the platapus come with a bite
valve, so you can either leave the tube inside the boat and grab it when you
are thirsty, or as I prefer which is to clip it on my chest so between
stokes I can lift the tube to my lips and go back to paddling while I drink.


Roy
=:-)

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> Subject:	[Paddlewise] Hydration systems
> 
> What's the collective wisdom of this fine list with regard to hydration
> systems --- something beyond the liter of Gatorade under the bungees?  I'm
> thinking of the Camelbacks, the on-deck bags, the under/through-deck
> reserves, etc.  With a relatively high center of gravity and a bunch of
> <20" beam boats, I'm not that excited about adding two liters of solution
> on my back, but I haven't seen that much that's easy and clean for on- or
> under-deck installation, and would welcome any and all ideas!  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jack Martin
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