Natalie said: <<< Sure has been an interesting day for email - what with Dr. Inverbon, the 190 degree rule, and Doug's wild paddling report, it's hard to separate fact from fiction, although I suspect the list above starts with fiction and goes to fact. Great paddling Doug. <snip> >>> I think Dr Inverbon (aka JW) follows the 190 degree rule with his posts, but in his neck of the woods, he has to drink copious amounts of icewine to reach equilibrium in the cooler temps of his latitude. For paddling, I myself like the 50/50 days (or is that 14/14 Celsius?). My "wild report" was on a day with 50 degree water, and air temps (with wind chill) of 50 degrees too. That is why I spend half my time rolling. Get it? 8-) One of the benefits of west coast paddling is that in the summer season, there is a lot of wind so one never gets too hot unless in sheltered water. I don't normally use "rotary cooling" unless I'm combining it with high wind rolling practice. I usually just scull my head into the water, and that is enough. For those with less than a 100% roll, it is perhaps a bit safer too. Don't know. Of course, we don't got no crocs chasing us in our paddlecraft, and no conspiracy saboteurs blowing up astrounauts/spacecraft into the surrounding waters because certain individuals were about to blow the whistle about the fake moonlandings. 8-) As far as fiction, my boss sometimes wonders about the veracity of my many tales at the workplace of high adventure paddling. On the evening of my little escapade Friday, her husband up there in the penthouse who hadn't been informed I was going by the waterfront, said at the window: "Look out here honey, there's some idiot out in the gale -- in a kayak!" She came over to the window and said, "Oh, that's just Doug!" There are actually a number of us that paddle the waterfront during high wave activity. That's how you keep your edge. Anyway, everything is relative, and I didn't think it was that wild out, compared to the winter storm paddling I do (where the consequences of a screw up are much more severe). The big thing with all the wilder paddling, is that you must have 100% confidence in your roll -- just like on the river Natalie. Interestingly enough, I would never river paddle alone, not even Class II; yet I don't bat an eye solo rough water sea kayaking. The recent death of a very well known expert BC river kayaker who was alone demonstrates the difference in the sports, though the sea can be one heck of a dangerous place too. I'll post my Columbia River and CR Bar trip sometime too. Actually, the bar was fairly calm, but off the North Jetty where I paddled off Peacock Spit, every known ocean hazard dynamic transpired in one condensed spot -- totally awesome. My overall trip to Oregon was just far too lovely, surfing all day, paddling out to picture perfect headlands and arches; and Tina and Dave were far too gracious for me too sully the trip reports with testosterone poising at the moment. The people and seascape of Oregon simply blew me away. doug *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lloyd" <dougl_at_islandnet.com> To: "Natalie Wiest" <wiestn_at_tamug.tamu.edu>; <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: [Paddlewise] Subject: RE: End of season (humor) snip > The people and seascape of Oregon simply blew me away. snip Indeed, the people of Oregon are incredibly friendly. The coastline is breath-taking. But here's my question to the Oregonian Paddlewisers: why doesn't your state government trust you and visitors to your beautiful state to pump their own gas! It freaked me out the first time I stopped for gas in Oregon and the attendant notified me that I couldn't pump my own gas. All I could wonder is what else doesn't the state of Oregon trust their citizens with? The whole situation with me standing next to the attendant watching him pump gas into my car struck me as absurd. I can pump my own gas in just about every other state in the union--but not in Oregon! Doesn't the fact that every station has to hire an attendant to pump gas add to the cost? One attendant mentioned some smoker blowing themselves sky high or torching themselves and the ensuing lawsuit--seemed like an incredible over-reaction by the state government to me. Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Sylvia" <Rick.Sylvia_at_ferginc.com> To: "'Craig MacKinnon'" <elroca_at_earthlink.net>; <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Oregonians can't be trusted? snip > To tie it into paddling - "and that's why I love non-motorized water > pursuits out in the wilderness far, far away from civilization". :-) > snip Outstanding job of tying that back into paddling. I too enjoy non-motorized on-water activities and Oregon seems like a great place for it... Sorry if the original message was a bit off topic. Thanks to all the friendly Oregonians who responded. The consensus is that most Oregonians are as bewildered as I was regarding the situation... Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I can pump my own gas in just > about every other state in the union--but not in Oregon! Doesn't the fact > that every station has to hire an attendant to pump gas add to the cost? Can't do it in NJ either. Tried to alter that last year, didn't pass... Explanation is entry level wages would be lost to a certain segment of the population. Never heard the explosive theory.. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Pylka" <pylka_at_castle.net> To: <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Oregonians can't be trusted? > > Can't do it in NJ either. Tried to alter that last year, didn't pass... > Explanation is entry level wages would be lost to a certain segment of the > population. Never heard the explosive theory.. > I assumed this was the explanation in Oregon--that it was some type of work program. When I asked the attendant about his presence adding to the cost of gas, he said someone had to be at the station anyway and if he wasn't pumping gas he would still be there but just reading a book--that's when he dropped into the explosion theory. Other attendants I talked to just said that's the way it's always been; they were freaked out when they traveled to other states; one attendant said he pulled up to a pump in California and just stood there for the longest time waiting for someone to pump his gas... To tie this back to paddling: "paddlers may want to consider gas prices when travelling on paddling vacations...." :-) Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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