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From: Peter A. Chopelas <pac_at_premier1.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history (to John Winter)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:03:01 -0700
John Winter wrote:
>your friend Peter seems to suffer from the engineer's disease.
>

Dear Mr. Winter,

I known of this affliction and many of my profession are quite seriously 
afflicted but I assure you I suffer no such illusions.  As a matter fact 
this is not a condition solely isolated to engineers, but can afflict any 
humans who will attribute contemporary motivations on ancient peoples or 
cultures.  This leads to many irrational conclusions about ancient cultures 
by modern historians such as your illustrious Dr. Inverbon.  If you go back 
and review what I wrote I did not attribute any such systematic 
investigation on the efficiency of paddles to native peoples because I know 
for a fact this what not their primary motivation.

Dr. Inverbon is limited by his own cultural experience, his limited 
intellect and perhaps the limitations caused by his partaking in too many 
mind altering substances in the name of investigation of native ritual 
practices.  By merely looking at cave wall paintings you can never hope to 
learn what those symbolic and often sacred images meant to the peoples that 
created them.  And as you pointed out, without a written language we can 
not read what they thought or understood and most of us modern folks are 
without a clue as to what they thought.

I just happen to have had a personnel experience where I had been able to 
receive first hand information directly from native paddle makers.  Now I 
can not speak with any knowledge of native Greenland or Inuit history but, 
living in the Pacific Norwest I have had personnel contact with an Aleut 
leader.

A little known fact outside of Alaska is that some 250+ years ago Russian 
missionaries had introduced Christianity to the native peoples of Alaska. 
Some 750 years before that it was the Greeks who had introduced 
Christianity to the then mostly pagan Russians.  And despite the separation 
of time, language and cultural traditions, all of these peoples had 
preserved the ancient and pure faith of Orthodox Christianity such that we 
all still practice and enjoy intercommunion.

Since my parents were Greek immigrants to the United States I too was 
raised within the Orthodox Christian Tradition and have something in common 
with the Aleuts of Alaska.

What does this have to do with paddles?  Well, not much so far but I'm 
getting to that.

It just so happens a few years ago that an old native Aleut Priest was in 
the Seattle area with his family because of necessary medical treatment for 
a member of his family that he could not get in the tiny and remote village 
where he lives.  He was invited by our parish priest to stay in our 
community and celebrate the Divine Liturgy with us one Sunday morning. 
 After we partook of the Holy Mysteries together in the Ancient Tradition 
of Orthodox Christians, I took the opportunity to inquire of him about the 
native culture of his people.  During the fellowship hour we talked 
extensively about his people and village life.  He also warned me to be 
very skeptical of anything said about the natives of Alaska unless it comes 
directly from them.  Tragically it seems that many modern anthropologists 
have reached conclusions about native beliefs and motivations without 
bothering to even ask the natives themselves. As it appears your Dr. 
Inverbon has perhaps done.

Most natives in the remote parts of Alaska are unfortunately still 
illiterate, especially the Old Ones, and since the village Priest is the 
only one who can read or write, he becomes by default the Keeper of the 
Ancient Knowledge, much the same way their religious leaders were in their 
pre-Christian days.  Unlike westerners however, their whole life revolves 
around their religion, and they look to their Church for leadership, not 
politicians or scientists.  They also feel it is important to preserve 
their experiences and even understand their old pagan ways so they 
collectively know and remember their past.  This history was carefully p  
reserved by native oral tradition and handed down from generation to 
generation by individuals specially trained to remember these stories.  And 
now by default these deeply religious people have entrusted their priests 
with this knowledge.

Of course, during our conversation and fellowship, I eventually brought the 
conversation around to kayaks and I saw how his eyes became filled with awe 
and great sadness as well.  I learned a lot of interesting things about 
what the natives thought of kayaks and kayaking they would not generally 
share with non-natives.  But since we shared a most intimate and sacred 
bond that even predates both our current cultures, he was much less 
reluctant to share his people's history and motivations with me.  I know 
that much of the motivation attributed by modern anthologists is just 
outright speculation and often unfortunately the result of intentionally 
misleading information distributed by misguided natives trying to preserve 
their "secret" history.  The cave paints of natives riding walrus in 
jousting matches that Dr. Inverbon has seen is one such deception.

With much reluctance this old Aleut priest told me about the history of the 
long thin pointed (high aspect ratio) paddle.  You see the purpose of the 
paddle, and the kayak in general was not for hunting as is popularly 
believed.  It is silly and useless to hunt large mammals with such a light 
and flimsy craft. They hunted from land or ice flows.  True larger kayaks 
were used for transporting goods, but the primary purpose of the single 
kayak in their pre-Christian days was to prove the "manhood" of the young 
adult males (hence the reason women never used them except for transport, 
they were not suffering from the typical testosterone poisoning that 
afflicts most young male humans of all cultures).

The lighter and flimsier the kayak, the braver the kayaker must be.  The 
bigger the waves, the rougher the conditions, AND the flimsier the kayak, 
then obviously the braver the kayaker.  Eventually, after many tragic 
casualties, their skills did become very high so that even this did not 
seem much of a challenge.  They even developed enough skills to stand up 
and ride their kayaks down the face of massive waves using only their feet 
on the deck for control (and to think that the native Hawaiians claim to be 
the ones that invented surfing!).

These ancient contests became very competitive and despite the danger they 
even began attacking the other contestants to prove who is the strongest 
and bravest.  That was also when the first sharply pointed bows appeared on 
kayaks, it was very useful for ramming the other's hull or person to knock 
them out of the running.

At first it occurred to them to make their paddles big and heavy to use as 
a weapon, very similar to the club-like Euro paddles that are so popular 
today among non-native kayakers.  But it was soon found that those with the 
Euro style paddles could not catch the other competitors, and it would also 
throw them off balance as they swung it around over their heads getting 
ready to strike the other kayaker.  This was devastating to those standing 
on their kayaks racing down the face of the waves.  Falling off your kayak 
in those conditions did not only mean you would lose the contest, it would 
often cost the competitor his life.  Even if they did survive somehow, they 
would have to live the rest of their life in shame and remain unmarried.

As many centuries past in this fashion, the human toll became unacceptably 
high, so the tribal elder got together to determine if there was some way 
they could preserve their traditions and the excitement of the competitions 
yet somehow make it not so costly on the young men.  They devised the 
double ended "lancelet" paddle.  They had light long thin blades that came 
to a point at the tip.  Example of these can be seen in historic 
illustrations and museum pieces and in such publications at David 
Zimmarly's "Qayak" and George Dynson's "Biadarka" where you can go look for 
yourself.

The object of this design was to be able to stab and slice at the 
competitor without losing your balance.  This was such a success that they 
even put bone or ivory tips and edges in the blades.  It was also 
discovered that when paddling over long distances that the one using the 
longest and thinnest blades also had the best endurance, confirming another 
important value of such an unusual blade.

To keep the flying blood and body parts from falling into the kayak they 
devised a seal skin skirt or cover the cockpit.  The term "spray skirt" was 
not referring to water spray, but the blood that would spray when a major 
artery was severed.  It was considered bad luck to discover after a 
successful contest to find your competitor's body parts and blood inside 
your kayak. If you notice in most historic photos native kayakers did not 
use spray skirts, their skill was high enough it was not necessary.  These 
were reserved only for competition or surfing.

Once Christianity was introduced and had become popular, especially among 
the Old Ones, this kind of brutal and deadly competition fell out of favor. 
 The older members of the tribe of course saw multiple generations of 
promising young men succumb to this challenge, who more often then not 
resulted in a senseless loss of life or limb.  These losses of the most 
skilled and capable young men the tribe could hardly afford to lose.  And 
the more intelligent young men would also immediately and willingly adopt 
the new religion since it meant they could be spared this senseless risk to 
their life and limb without loss of honor. And especially since it seemed 
all the most attractive young tribal women were joining the Church in large 
numbers as well.  This type of bravery did not appear to interest the women 
anymore (of course they never asked if it interested them before either, 
but no one was interested in what the young women thought much before, they 
had no choice in the matter anyway).

Since Christianity's standards were socially more valuable, and certainly 
less risky to your life than these contests, these contests quite literally 
died out.  The extreme risk takers who continued to participated soon all 
died off.  The new standards were responsibility, respect for life, caring 
for others before yourself, community service, humility, honesty and 
similar moral values.  These values are what better allowed the survival of 
their people in one of the harshest environments in the world.

The old Priest then said a prayer to thank God that He saved his people 
from this destructive life style before they became extinct from of their 
own folly.

The old Priest telling me this story indicated what a great shame this past 
is to his people.  To this day many Old Ones lament the senseless sacrifice 
of their young men in the past.  So they wish to keep the memory of this 
great tragedy only to themselves.  They will deny this history to outsiders 
to this day.  Accordingly they never put these stories to writing lest 
others should find them.  They only will trust their tribal elders and 
Priests with the memory of this tragic chapter in their history.

Some will even tell silly stories to outsiders to hide this past, and even 
engage in elaborate deceptions such as the cave paintings.

Interestingly, as a memorial to those lost I suppose, they kept making and 
using the long thin paddles.  They found them not just useful for long 
distance paddling (quite obviously because they are more efficient), but 
the hard bone edges helped them hack through masses of seaweed, and the 
sharp points were handy for cooking meat over an open fire (also introduced 
by the Russian colonists, cooked meat is much easier on the teeth).  And 
this kind of paddle came in handy if a paddler should inadvertently 
surprise a bear or bull seal and all he had was the sharply pointed blades 
on his paddle to defend himself with.

This is why the first western Europeans to discover the native Alaskans 
found them using the long thin paddles with the pointed tips, and yet find 
no evidence of this previously brutal blood sport involving kayaks.  And 
they just thought the kayaks were cute little boats with their pointy ends, 
spray skirts, and long skinny paddles.  To this day few know of their 
actual brutal history of development.  This also account for why so few 
native Alaskans use kayaks any more.

I would offer you to go out and verify this for yourself but, other then 
the evidence I cited above, you will not find much.  Even the old Priest 
was not concerned that I should spread this story because he and other 
Aleuts would just say to you the same thing he told me,  be very skeptical 
of anything said about the natives of Alaska unless it comes directly from 
them. So I am sorry I can not offer you any proof.

So there you have it.  Clearly other considerations went into the kayak and 
paddle design than good cursing performance.

DISCLAIMER:  Many parts of the above story are actually true, but not all 
of it.  It is up to you to decided for yourself what is true and what is 
not!

Peter Chopelas



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From: Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw_at_arctic.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history (to John Winter)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:04:43 -0800
This is absolutely untrue.  Every community (remote village) in Alaska
has a school and just about everyone of them has television.  They are
not illiterate even if they are elderly.  Quite frankly most of your
posting was off base.  This is from a life long Alaskan with 55 years of
Alaskan history behind him.  I am a little unsure but did I sense
sarcasm in your posting?

<Bill>

Brought to you from beautiful Unalaska/Dutch Harbor, Alaska.
N 53°51.140'  W 166°30.228'   (WGS 84)

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From: "Peter A. Chopelas" <pac_at_premier1.net>
To: <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history (to John Winter)


>
> Most natives in the remote parts of Alaska are unfortunately still
> illiterate,

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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history (to John Winter)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:49:38 EDT
In a message dated 01-06-08 01:12:21 EDT, you write:

<< Quite frankly most of your posting was off base.  This is from a life long 
Alaskan with 55 years of Alaskan history behind him.  I am a little unsure 
but did I sense
 sarcasm in your posting? >>

Bill, my opinion is that Peter was writing a lot of tongue-in-cheek stuff a 
la Dr. Inverbon....I must admit it was a wee bit too long for me, so I may 
have missed something....but I respectfully suggest that you lighten up a 
bit.  Humor yes...sarcasm??? I don't think so.

You could have written an equally humorous reply and rectified whatever 
offended you.  Of course, if I'm off base with this message....I apologize in 
advance.

sandy kramer
miami

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From: Thomas Mitchell <mitchell_at_nwlink.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history & Self-Intro
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:40:52 -0700
All,

I'm new here but this is getting awfully confusing...

I read the original post by the professor and the follow up on Greek
Othodoxy and enjoyed them very much.  My professional colleagues were
certainly wondering how I was wasting company time due to the snorts and
snickers.

When I read the followup criticisms at first I thought "How could they have
taken this seriously?" then I thought maybe their apparent lack of a sense
of humor was in itself intentionally subtle sarcasm that _I_ am missing...

Who's on first??

Aside, I recently signed onto the list.  I'm primarily a mediocre sea
kayaker (Romany & Sirius) but lately all I've been able to think about is
kayak surfing (Mega Cyclone).  Strangely enough, I've somehow found myself
signed up for a whitewater class later this month..?

I live and paddle in the Puget Sound area.

Best,

Thomas

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From: Craig MacKinnon <elroca_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history & Self-Intro
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 08:36:10 -0400
Who is on first...

Btw, how do you like the Sirius?

Craig

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From: "Thomas Mitchell" <mitchell_at_nwlink.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history & Self-Intro


snip
> Who's on first??
snip
> Aside, I recently signed onto the list.  I'm primarily a mediocre sea
> kayaker (Romany & Sirius) but lately all I've been able to think about is
> kayak surfing (Mega Cyclone).  Strangely enough, I've somehow found myself
> signed up for a whitewater class later this month..?
>
snip


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From: Marian Gunkel <marian-list_at_gmx.de>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history (to John Winter)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:57:53 +0200
Peter wrote:
> To keep the flying blood and body parts from falling into the kayak they
> devised a seal skin skirt or cover the cockpit.  The term "spray skirt"
> was
> not referring to water spray, but the blood that would spray when a major
> artery was severed.  It was considered bad luck to discover after a
> successful contest to find your competitor's body parts and blood inside
> your kayak.

I wonder if this is the reason why the Aleutians used red paint on their kayak frames and their paddles. After a fight, you probably couldn't tell if that red color was fresh blood or old paint. Nice way of avoiding post-kayak-fight traumatic stress disorder (or somewhat in that direction).

I better put a *big* ;-) here ...

;-)))

Thanks for your report on the true evolution of kayaks and paddles, Peter.

Marian Marian Gunkel, Berlin, Germany
www.mariangunkel.de

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From: perry chamberlain <kato_at_qnet.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddles and history (to John Winter)
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:07:38 -0700
"Peter A. Chopelas" wrote:

>
>
>
>
> DISCLAIMER:  Many parts of the above story are actually true, but not all
> of it.  It is up to you to decided for yourself what is true and what is
> not!
>
> Peter Chopelas
>

Perry Chamberlain Wrote:

To start with any suggestion that, Bringing  the  controlling,  enslaving, self
serving, culture murdering,  western  based religions, to the First  Nations
Peoples,   along with the  Land and  Natural resource raping,  robber barons
that  accompanied them was in some way beneficial to the first Nations people
is insulting and absurd.
On a lighter note,
Spray skirts to ward off body parts and blood entering the Kayak,
PLEEEEEEEEASE.
I think Ill stick with the Idea that the northern kayakers just had good  plain
common sense,
and had more then just a clue about how to keep a kayak from sinking.


"Cold water in kayak bad,  dry bum in kayak,  good."
"Sinking Kayak full of freezing sea water,  bad"
"Sealed spray skirted kayak,  good"
"Long narrow paddle easy to paddle long distance,  good"
"Heavy wide paddle, make you tired,  bad"

I think the old priest got a little cabin fever, had to much sacrificial wine
lying around.
I can just see the natives rolling on the floor of there homes telling each
other the stories the big funny looking man in big black dress and pointy hat
believed today.
:-)

--
Perry Chamberlain
Kato_at_qnet.com
Liv'n on de Edge n de Desert
Everyone has someone in their family who is crazy,
if you don't know who it is, its you!



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