Message was: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:13:17 -0700 From: Rex Roberton <rexrob_at_mac.com> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bad advice on paddle float rescue (Matt Broze are you out there?) <snip> Side note: The cool thing about a 50 knot wind is seeing a gust rip across the surface and lift the water up and rain it down. <snip> Is that from an observation area or first hand from the cockpit? Revised Beaufort Wind Scale - Open Sea No. 0 - 0 mph, Calm; Paddlers out with their pets sticking out of hatches. No. 1 - 1-3 mph, Light air; Paddlers struggling with paddle float rescues. No. 2 - 4-6 mph, Light breeze; New paddlers reporting 6-foot waves. No. 3 - 7-11 mph, Gentle breeze; Most NA paddlers dropping their rudders. No. 4 - 12-16 mph, Mod. breeze; SOT paddlers SOL No. 5 - 17-21 mph, Fresh breeze; S&M paddlers just heading out. No. 6 - 22-28 mph, Strong breeze; Proficiency paddler trying to remember difference between mph, knots, and km/h -- and their limit. No. 7 - 29-35 mph, Mod. gale; High aspect ratio paddle paddlers giving finger to low aspect ratio paddler paddlers. Peter seen giving everyone the finger. No. 8 - 36-43 mph, Gale; Self-rescue skills quickly becoming irrelevant. Limbs seen being dismembering during PF resues using arm under deck line holds. Klepper owners seen running before gale happily sipping tea from their flasks. No. 9 - 44-51 mph, Strong gale; PW members with Bipolar disorders thinking about heading in. Rex seen singing "spume drops keep falling on my head". No. 10 - 52+ mph, Insane; Harvey Golden seen spinning through air in 30 lb. skin boat performing Inuit air barrel-rolls. doug 8-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Rex wrote: ><snip> >Side note: The cool thing about a 50 knot wind is seeing a gust rip >across >the surface and lift the water up and rain it down. Doug wrote: >Is that from an observation area or first hand from the cockpit? Doug also wrote: >I'll >crawl back into my "pink" hole now (my wife has me currently renovating >the entire house with deep-pink painted walls and new snow-white crown >moldings). Life will never be the same I fear. >From the cockpit. This was one winter about 7 years ago. We put in on the Skagit River (Washington State) and paddled into Skagit Bay. I was in a Eddyline Sea Star which is not a good boat for wind. When we entered the bay I was blown sideways to the wind and no matter what I tried I could not get turned back up into the wind. I could not even back the stern into the wind. Paddling backwards I worked my way back into the mouth of the river and was able to get some protection from the wind along the shoreline. When I went back out into the bay the second time I was able to stay in control. About a half hour later we encountered these powerful gusts which would lift the water right off the surface several feet. I'm not talking about spray blowing off the crest of a wave. There were no big waves because of the short fetch. This "lift" would be from a surface area of about 6 meters by 18 meters. -------------- Revised Beaufort Wind Scale Doug, you left some information out of the "Revised" Beaufort Wind Scale. You are a humble guy and are just trying to avoid the appearance of being a braggart so I'll go ahead and complete the scale. No. 8 - 36-43 mph, Gale: Self rescue skills quickly becoming irrelevant. Doug wakes up and looks out of the window in his pink bedroom. He yawns and goes back to sleep. No.9 - 44-51 mph, Strong gale: PW members with Bipolar disorders thinking about heading in. Rex seen singing "spume drops keep falling on my head." Doug gets up and looks out of the window in his pink kitchen and makes coffee. No. 10 - 52-70 mph, Insane; Harvey Golden seen spinning through air in 30 lb. skin boat performing Inuit air barrel-rolls. Doug looks out the window of his pink living room. Neighbor homes are being crushed by falling trees. Doug loads up kayak and gear just in case some real wind blows in. No. 11 - 70+ mph, Double insane; Doug launches to take advantage of a good opportunity to test some new equipment and hone his paddling skills. A tornado touches down nearby and Doug paddles over to check it out. He goes air-borne and ends up in the land of Oz where he meets up with Harvey Golden. After Doug answers the Munchkins questions about why he has pink paint under his finger nails, Harvey and Doug have a grand adventure paddling the uncharted waters of Oz. The Wizard help them get back to Victoria in time for dinner. :) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
When is Doug going to post the Oz report? I've got to get my Walter Mittian vicarious fix! Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Roberton" <rexrob_at_mac.com> To: "Doug Lloyd" <dougl_at_islandnet.com>; <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Revised Beaufort Wind Scale snip > No. 11 - 70+ mph, Double insane; Doug launches to take advantage of a good > opportunity to test some new equipment and hone his paddling skills. A > tornado touches down nearby and Doug paddles over to check it out. He goes > air-borne and ends up in the land of Oz where he meets up with Harvey > Golden. After Doug answers the Munchkins questions about why he has pink > paint under his finger nails, Harvey and Doug have a grand adventure > paddling the uncharted waters of Oz. The Wizard help them get back to > Victoria in time for dinner. snip *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Rex Roberton wrote: > Rex wrote: > > >From the cockpit. This was one winter about 7 years ago. We put in on the > Skagit River (Washington State) and paddled into Skagit Bay. I was in a > Eddyline Sea Star which is not a good boat for wind. When we entered the > bay I was blown sideways to the wind and no matter what I tried I could not > get turned back up into the wind. I find short fetch high wind to be particularly menacing too. Thanks for the explanation about your experience in Skagit Bay. I'm amazed at how fast the wind can funnel down in your area through certain hazardous sections where "gap" winds potentiate. I have most of the good beaches in the world, the west coast, and some down in the inner waters of Washington State -- all bookmarked with respect to live cams. I've seen some of these wind storms via cyberspace, and was amazed. BTW, if you have a fast modem at work, its a real treat to click into some of these cams in winter whenever you get a bit bored (and you thought I wasn't an armchair kayaker). Also, on my Oregon trip, when I rounded Tillamook Head, I was going to stop in at Seaside, call my family, and wave to them in front of the video cam there while they watched via the computer monitor, but my cell phone didn't work in the US. For those curious, here is an example: <http://www.kgw.com/livecams/kgwskycams.html?pic=/live/skycam/skycam-6-75.jpg> Click on Oceanside Rex, re your revised Revised Beaufort Wind Scale humor -- very well done. Better than my late night paint thinner induced attempt at humor. Hopefully, no one got offended with all this (like Peter). It was all meant in good fun - if a bit unorthodox 8-) Speaking of wind, may it always be at your back when you need it, and get some good season paddling in this summer. doug lloyd > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig MacKinnon wrote: > > When is Doug going to post the Oz report? I've got to get my Walter Mittian > vicarious fix! When Doug was visiting, I heard these noises in the night, emanating from the room we had him locked in ... ahhh, I mean where he was sleeping ... and when I peeked in, he was mumbling the wind mantra incoherently. He needs a twelve-step program. <grin> -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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