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From: Jolie Smilowicz <jolie_at_rockisland.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] John Winters, nomenclature
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:11:32 -0800
I want to hear more about the inanimate objects having intimate relations with
other inanimate objects as well as people.  That sounds like a good Sunday
topic.  And I may learn why I divorced my first husband, USN.





Jolie





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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] John Winters, nomenclature
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:14:50 -0800 (PST)
From:  <jolie_at_rockisland.com>

> Reality check, John.  I think the objections were more to do with your
> attitude than your words.


I musta missed something because I didn't read an "attitude" in 
John's message about getting the nomenclature correct... which John
is in a pretty good position to discuss.  John's been around and 
designing boats for decades.  His input on boat design is most
appreciated here.  He's also a great puller of legs...  something
for which us native Texans have a great appreciation :-)

Cheers,

Jackie
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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] John Winters, nomenclature
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:04:32 -0800 (PST)
> From: Frank Lucian <murpho_at_mediaone.net>

> If we drive away the paddlesport professionals who are generous enough
> to share their knowledge, experience and valuable time with us, we will
> end up with another one of those forums where all we have is people who
> don't know what they're talking about misinforming everyone else.


Thanks, Frank.  You said in a far better way what I wanted to say.

> PS - Now if I can just get back to scanning those Manatee photos...

Oh, cool!  Did you get to paddle with Manatees?!  Will we get to
see those photos???

Cheers,

Jackie

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From: <dldecker_at_se.mediaone.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Manatees
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:39:15 -0500
At 03:04 PM 12/28/01 -0800, Jackie Fenton wrote:
>> From: Frank Lucian <murpho_at_mediaone.net>
>
>Thanks, Frank.  You said in a far better way what I wanted to say.
>
>> PS - Now if I can just get back to scanning those Manatee photos...
>
>Oh, cool!  Did you get to paddle with Manatees?!  Will we get to
>see those photos???
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jackie


Frank and Alison's kayaks were almost molested by a Manatee and he got it
all on film. Hopefully his pictures he post will be family rated :) if he
ever gets them scanned in its only been a month, jeez how hard is it to
scan in a few pictures Frank? They are well worth the wait. Hurry up Frank!!!

Dana
seen them
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From: Frank Lucian <murpho_at_mediaone.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Manatee photos
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 12:04:49 -0800
Well, here you go:

http://people.we.mediaone.net/murpho/index.htm
or
http://people.we.mediaone.net/murpho/manatee.htm
 
Frank
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From: DMcNally <dmcnally_at_pacificcoast.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] The Manatee photos
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:58:32 -0800
Thank you, Frank!  That was worth the wait. 

Your thoughts about swimming with them to encourage conservation,
or not swimming with them to encourage conservation,  brings to mind the 
ongoing debate in the PNW around orca watching.  

I love reading posts and associated sites from the Florida paddlers! 
It all looks so exotic and *warm* to me here on the  
chilly Vancouver Island winter coast. 

Diane


> Well, here you go:
> 
> http://people.we.mediaone.net/murpho/index.htm
> or
> http://people.we.mediaone.net/murpho/manatee.htm
>  
> Frank


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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] The Manatee photos
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:12:40 +1100
G'Day Frank,

The accessibility of wildlife to US paddlers is enviable. Thanks for sharing
it with us. You have a beautiful and fascinating country.

All the best, PeterO

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From: Dirk Barends <dbarends_at_ision.nl>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] John Winters, nomenclature
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 10:18:04 +0100
living in a land where many people call a kayak a canoe
and a canoe a canadian or sometimes even a canadian kayak,
I can only appreciate the effort it takes to try to set the nomenclature
right as possible. (Anders kon ik dit ook net zo goed in het Nederlands schrijven?)

Cheer up!  (Maybe Dr. Peregrine Inverbon has to pay a visit to Piety Hill?)

Dirk Barends

www.ision.nl/users/dbarends/cwp.html



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From: Mike McNally <mmcnally3_at_prodigy.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] John Winters, nomenclature
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:07:05 -0600
I too have been yerning for an anthropologically juxtaposed view of the
origins of nautical nomenclature, and it's subsequent derision.  Dr.
Peregrine's input is sorely needed here.  


On Sat 29 Dec 2001, Dirk Barends wrote:

> Cheer up!  (Maybe Dr. Peregrine Inverbon has to pay a visit to Piety Hill?)
> 
> Dirk Barends

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A penny saved kills your career in government.

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From: Mike McNally <mmcnally3_at_prodigy.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] John Winters, nomenclature
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:38:25 -0600
I worked on submarines as well.  All I learned, that relates to this
topic, is that Navy protocol calls for all submarine crew members to
sleep with a bucket on their heads, and their backs to the wall.
Therefore that of which you speak would be largely unseen, unknown, yet
a force not to be reckoned with.  Then again, your divorce may have
been just such a "reckoning".  But what do I know.


On Sun 30 Dec 2001, Jolie Smilowicz wrote:

> I want to hear more about the inanimate objects having intimate relations with
> other inanimate objects as well as people.  That sounds like a good Sunday
> topic.  And I may learn why I divorced my first husband, USN.

-- 
Mike McNally		mmcnally3_at_prodigy.net

All most people want is a little more than they'll ever get.

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