G'day, Would be interested to know what people find useful for basic repairs on kayak trips - I've given away multitools after damaging the pliers while rewiring a pump. Always carry a knife, scissors, cord, bungee and duct tape - wonder what else people have had to use in real repair situations? All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 12/12/01 9:27:36 PM, rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au writes: << Always carry a knife, scissors, cord, bungee and duct tape - wonder what else people have had to use in real repair situations? >> My list is a bit extensive and one thing I've found is this fiberglass patching stuff you soften and mold with your fingers that I got from West Marine or Boater's World, I don't recall which one. Has anyone had any experience with it? Joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Since I've been working in the field sort of speak as a BCU coach I get the chance to see what people carry in there kit. I find that many of the things people carry they do so every time they go out. In many cases it's a prepacked dry bag with little thought other then it's what someone like the BCU says they need. Much of this stuff never leaves the bag and the condition of things like flares are more then likely very poor. I also think that what you bring on a short trip and a longer trip can vary. So rather then just grabbing a bag in hopes that you've got everything I always try to stop and think do I need all of this and will I need something different for these condition I'll be in. JFF My list is a bit extensive and one thing I've found is this fiberglass patching stuff you soften and mold with your fingers that I got from West Marine or Boater's World, I don't recall which one. Has anyone had any experience with it? Joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
PeteO asks: >> wonder what else people have had to use in real repair situations? Denzo tape. It's a British made plumbers tape that'll stick to anything, even wet. It's oowie/goowie, a tar/ heavy grease impregnated tape the width of duct tape. I roll out double wide, 4-6" long patches onto aluminum foil backing then cover with 4mil plastic and store in a ziplock. These live in my deck bag and are ready to go. A couple of these will quickly patch a huge hole in a boat, even at sea. It truly works. You just remove the plastic sheet, stick it on and leave the aluminum on as a backing. It helps if you rub it with pressure to get it to bond well. GRO imports the stuff, so anyone in the states selling NDK or VCP should be able to get it by the roll <a huge amount>. We package it up <as above> in convenient little kits. steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I find that many of the things people carry they do so every time they go out. In > many cases it's a prepacked dry bag with little thought other then > it's what someone like the BCU says they need..... I also think that what you bring on a short trip and a longer trip can vary. So rather then just grabbing a bag > in hopes that you've got everything I always try to stop and think do > I need all of this and will I need something different for these > condition I'll be in. With the exception of adding something specific due to the conditions you will expect to face, and the conditions of things like flares that you hope you will never need, I have to humbly ask the following question about the snip above... "SO WHAT?" - it's easier to grab a pre-packed bag with *ALL* your stuff, you probably have room for it, and the weight doesn't generally impact the boat performance, so why risk forgetting something by packing specific items for each specific trip? Everything I take paddling is together. I grab it, load it and go. It's quick and easy. With the exception of food and water, of course. I never have to worry about "what do I think I'll need today?". So again, - serious question, not just being a smart-ass - whats wrong with having everything you could possibly need in one bag and just grabbing it and go? I must be missing the point - help me out. Rick - Poquoson, VA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Nothing as long as everything stays in working order. For me however I find that when I stuff an all purpose bag I end up bringing to much stuff or forget to check things over on a regularly. Some would say if you've got the space why not. For me I just feel it slows me down, having stuff pushed in all my pockets and string hangout oh and a big knife, must have a big knife. All this for a short 2 hour trip on local water. JFF > I find that many of the things people carry they do so every time >they go out. In > many cases it's a prepacked dry bag with little thought other then > it's what someone like the BCU says they need..... I also think >that what you bring on a short trip and a longer trip can vary. So >rather then just grabbing a bag > in hopes that you've got everything I always try to stop and think do > I need all of this and will I need something different for these > condition I'll be in. With the exception of adding something specific due to the conditions you will expect to face, and the conditions of things like flares that you hope you will never need, I have to humbly ask the following question about the snip above... "SO WHAT?" - it's easier to grab a pre-packed bag with *ALL* your stuff, you probably have room for it, and the weight doesn't generally impact the boat performance, so why risk forgetting something by packing specific items for each specific trip? Everything I take paddling is together. I grab it, load it and go. It's quick and easy. With the exception of food and water, of course. I never have to worry about "what do I think I'll need today?". So again, - serious question, not just being a smart-ass - whats wrong with having everything you could possibly need in one bag and just grabbing it and go? I must be missing the point - help me out. Rick - Poquoson, VA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
JFF wrote >I always try to stop and think do I need all of >this and will I need something different for these >condition I'll be in. Rick wrote >whats wrong with having everything you could possibly >need in one bag and just grabbing it and go? G'Day JFF Rick and Paddlewise Both points of view work for me. How about a prepacked deckbag, and a drybag in the day hatch, for trips of an hour or so. A third optional dry bag in the rear hatch for longer trips or where more stability is needed. Most of my equipment is now in better condition for being stored consistently and I no longer forget to take stuff out. Packing a boat takes 5 minutes. However, most of my trips are in familiar waters. If going somewhere new, and after listening to the posts of the last two days, I would definitely think out the equipment specifically for that trip. Also as stuff in the deck bag gets wet and has consumables it gets checked every time. The deckbag has the flares, paddlefloat, some food and water. Any ideas on tools! Must try the Denzo patches and/or MiraDry but will also keep duct tape as its useful in first aid. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "PeterO" <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au> > rewiring a pump. Always carry a knife, scissors, cord, bungee and duct > tape - wonder what else people have had to use in real repair situations? My Leatherman Wave has lots of tools, but I always carry a neat little screwdriver, too. It's called a Ratcrapper and is a tool sold to snowboarders. It is small and has a T-shaped handle that fits nicely into your palm. It has a ratcheted bit holder and takes standard hex screwdriver bits. When skiing, I carry a Posidrive #3 and misc others. When kayaking, I carry the misc others. The others include all Phillips and slot bits that fit any kayak screw on Amie's and my kayaks. It can also take sockets with a small adapter, but I've only used that at home (most of the bits and sockets don't come with the Ratcrapper, but are pinched from another tool set.) I also carry wire ties - those plastic things that can't be undone once looped closed. Useful for quick attachments and repairs. Screws and bolts for anything on the kayaks and replacement rudder wire (which, in a crunch, can have many other uses). I usually take five-minute epoxy, but haven't needed it yet (kayaking - used it skiing to fix a friend's binding mount) Other than that, my list is basically like yours. I put most of the stuff into an old white Nalgene bottle so it's always together and ready. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I use Aluminum tape and a little bit of soft wire. Never had to do any major repairs but it kept me going in the Texas Safari. I went under a tree and tore up the boat and put two 3" holes in the hull below the water line. Just dried it off with a lighter (be very careful) and put on the tape. Went 80 more miles with the fix. The wire was for the rudder and but was never used. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Rick wrote >>whats wrong with having everything you could possibly >>need in one bag and just grabbing it and go? That's the ideal situation. In my glass boats I have a knee tube where I keep a Naglene plastic bottle with very basic repair and rescue items. Would come in handy for on-the-water or quick repairs. I also carry a more extenive repair kit. I can't remember who makes it, but someone puts together a all-around gear repair kit (tent, zippers etc) kind of thing. I suplemented this with some boat specififc stuff. It all comes with its own drybag. Very convinient. I got mine several years back at REI. For my Khatsalano I don't have knee tubes, so I have to store everything in hatches. Feathercraft makes a repairkit which I keep in the bow of the boat for emergencies. I'd have to take the boat apart to get at it, but if something is wong with the boat I am going to have to do that anyway. And I admit it, I don't have any denzo (it frightens me) or other fancy tape. Just that generic "boat repair tape" that looks like duct tape. -Patrick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Patrick Maun" <patrick_at_patrickmaun.com> > I can't remember who makes > it, but someone puts together a all-around gear repair kit (tent, > zippers etc) kind of thing. One is made by Adventure Medical Kits. There may be others. They have neat stuff like Fastex buckles that can replace broken ones without the need for re-sewing the webbing. Worth considering if you don't want to make up your own kit from bits and pieces. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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