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From: Jolie Smilowicz <jolie_at_rockisland.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Fw: Nature calls in a dry suit? Let 'er rip (with the correct e...
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:40:11 -0800
> In a message dated 02/11/2002 10:31:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> tmitchell_at_hekizan.com writes:
>
> << A small hose then runs from the valve to your, your, uhhh, exit
>  point.  It is secured there via an external catheter - sort of a condom
>  with a hole in the end that attaches to the hose. >>
>
> err...is this male specific????
>
> sandy kramer  :)


>>>Gotta be!  We'd have to be catheterized to make this work!  And with a
woman's Kokatat suit, you are dealing with this huge, difficult zipper that
goes from one hip, around your rear end, and over to the other hip.  I'm
lucky if I can open on shore, let alone in a boat!  Why they don't just put
a relief zipper on the crotch like some of the wet-suits do, I have no idea!
Even if they would put them higher up on the groin and parallel, like they
do for the guys, we would at least have a chance using something like the
stupid sani-fem.

Jolie

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From: Steve Scherrer <Flatpick_at_teleport.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fw: Nature calls in a dry suit? Let 'er rip (with the correct e...
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:25:19 -0800
> Even if they would put them higher up on the groin and parallel, like they
> do for the guys, we would at least have a chance using something like the
> stupid sani-fem.
>
> Jolie


A lot of Alder Creek's female guides/ instructors (including my wife) use
funnels or (stupid??) Sani-fems and men's style relief zips.  They love
standing there peeing  with the boys!  Can't imagine the round the butt zip
being a viable option.

steve

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From: Joan Volin <jvolin_at_optonline.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fw: Nature calls in a dry suit? Let 'er rip (with the correct e...
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:18:49 -0500
It's a very viable option.  It's true that it's a very tight zipper,  but
since it's necessary to wear clothes under the drysuit anyway, there's no
problem with asking anyone - male or female - to help with the zipper.  I've
managed to open and/or close it myself on occasion, but I usually don't
bother to knock myself out - I just ask for help.  Then I go off to find my
spot in the woods, with my rear flap flapping.  It's cute.

The best under-drysuit option, I've found, is a Doctor Denton-type one piece
polartec outfit, also with drop seat.  Trying to deal with pull-on pants
under a drop seat drysuit is difficult, at best.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Scherrer" <Flatpick_at_teleport.com>
To: "Jolie Smilowicz" <jolie_at_rockisland.com>; "Paddlewise submissions"
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fw: Nature calls in a dry suit? Let 'er rip (with
the correct e...


> A lot of Alder Creek's female guides/ instructors (including my wife) use
> funnels or (stupid??) Sani-fems and men's style relief zips.  They love
> standing there peeing  with the boys!  Can't imagine the round the butt
zip
> being a viable option.
>
> steve
>
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