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From: kcd <timbre440_at_yahoo.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] rec boats/commercial
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:30:52 -0700
re the victoria accident:

we paddle rec boats (carolina and america), the hubby and i, and we use 
neoprene sprayskirts, and wetsuits when the temps require it.  his boat is 
bulkheaded, but i never go out w/o floatation.  ever.  i also bring swim 
fins in case i have to swim a distance.  tow rope goes w/o saying, other 
safety stuff of course too.  people should never be deceived into thinking 
a beamier boat means you won't capsize.  for one thing, the more water the 
thing holds, the more water you have to pump out.  easier to sink, 
even.  of course we practice rescues, tandem and solo.

on another topic--- and i'm sorry if this has been covered, but i've been 
away for abt a month because i angered the internet gods, who squirled with 
my DSL, has anyone in the US seen the kayaking commercial for nissan 
xterra?  the guy is out in fog and a mild swell and uses his keys to make 
the lights of the [gas-guzzling, let's make america MORE dependent on 
foreign oil, don't get me started ranting] SUV to find the shore.  i like 
the commercial actually.  anyone know what boat he's paddling?  cd solstice?

best to all.

kcd
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From: Jeanne Dulaney-Sorochak <jdsorochak_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] rec boats/commercial
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:55:41 +0000
kcd writes: "has anyone in the US seen the kayaking commercial for nissan
xterra? the guy is out in fog and a mild swell and uses his keys to make
the lights of the [gas-guzzling, let's make america MORE dependent on
foreign oil, don't get me started ranting] SUV to find the shore. i like
the commercial actually. anyone know what boat he's paddling? cd
solstice? "

I believe it's actually a WS Sealution (glass or kevlar)... it's
definitely got the same shape. BTW... there are VERY good reasons for
owning and driving an SUV - four wheel drive is critical to living where
I do for as much as 7 months of the year, since I drive dirt roads to get
anywhere. Know who you are ranting at before you start! jeanne

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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] rec boats/commercial
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:33:49 -0400
From: "Jeanne Dulaney-Sorochak" <jdsorochak_at_hotmail.com>


> Know who you are ranting at before you start! 

...the vast majority of owners who never ride dirt roads for fear
of getting their precious SUVs dirty!

Mike

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From: Melissa Reese <melissa_at_bonnyweeboaty.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] rec boats/commercial
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:13:41 -0700
On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 10:33:49 AM PST, Michael Daly wrote:

> ...the vast majority of owners who never ride dirt roads for fear of
> getting their precious SUVs dirty!

I know that some will consider this off-topic, but since we are a
group of people who insist on hauling large objects and their
accompanying gear around, and also claim to respect the "great
outdoors", I think it's more on-topic than not. In that spirit, I'll
add my own little rant...

I live in an area where *at least* half of the vehicles I see are of
the large SUV variety (realistically, more than half - especially if
one includes large, perpetually shiny 4WD pickup trucks as well).
Being as generous to those who feel they "need" them as I can be, I'd
say that well over 90% of them never see *any* action beyond daily
trips to the grocery store, post office, or to work. Most also are
seen with only one or two occupants.

For many years, I drove a 1984 Honda Accord hatchback (front wheel
drive only). It carried as many as three single sea kayaks (or a
single and a double), and was perfectly capable of driving on dirt
roads, in the snow, etc. Sadly, that little car recently requested
retirement, so I went in search of a new (used) car. I ended up with a
1987 Subaru GL wagon. It gets about the same great mileage as the
Honda, and is capable of carrying even a bit more interior cargo (and
at least as much on top). It does have a 4WD option, but I've only
used it once so far - in some deep snow (it didn't slide around, so I
guess it worked; but my front wheel drive only Honda never slid around
in the snow either). Otherwise, its default front wheel drive seems
just fine for 99% of my driving (including gnarly dirt roads).

My little cars seem more than adequate for my "sport utility"
requirements, and they certainly perform the duty more often than well
over 90% of the big gas guzzling shiny SUVs I see every day (recently,
I'm seeing even more of the BMW and Mercedes models - all very nice
and shiny!).

I really wish we here in the USA were forced to pay more realistic
prices for fossil fuels (yes that's right - I wish even *I* had to pay
much more per gallon).  I think it's the only way our manufacturers
and "consumers" will get the idea that something perfectly functional
and far more efficient can be "fashionable".

I do in fact understand some people's reasonable need for a more
powerful, larger vehicle, but those people are really a minority. Most
large, powerful vehicles driven these days are on the road for fashion
- nothing more. Unfortunately, this "fashion" has resulted in greater
pollution and more deadly accidents (especially deadly for occupants
of the smaller cars they hit). And for those who do truly feel the
need for "off road fun", the unnecessary ripping up of perfectly
beautiful countryside is their main contribution.

In my opinion, there are more than enough roads - both paved and dirt
- and very little need for "off road" driving. Most "regular" cars are
perfectly capable of driving on the available roads - even in varied
conditions.

Melissa
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