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From: george ruta <nckayak_at_capital.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] flares - handheld vs. 12 gauge?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 00:38:49 -0400
my handhelds sky-blazers are expiring, and i'm considering replacing with
the shotgun shell version thinking they may be more waterproof.

does anyone have experience with them in a kayak setting? ideas on where to
store the rather bulky pistol?
thanks
-- 
george ruta - northcountry kayak
**sea kayaks for upstate new york and new england**
518-677-3040, http://www.capital.net/com/nckayak
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] flares - handheld vs. 12 gauge?
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:59:13 -0400
From: "george ruta" <nckayak_at_capital.net>

> my handhelds sky-blazers are expiring, and i'm considering replacing with
> the shotgun shell version thinking they may be more waterproof.
> 
> does anyone have experience with them in a kayak setting? ideas on where to
> store the rather bulky pistol?

I don't know if they're more waterproof, but Tru Flare has released a new 
version of their flares - a revolving cartridge holder that can hold three
flares. (http://www.tru-flare.com/ scroll to model 07 at the bottom.)
This has the advantage of just needing a twist of the rotating head to 
bring another cartridge into firing position, unlike most single load
systems.

It's more compact than a pistol type launcher.  I don't know how they
compare otherwise - I suspect that the pistol flares have more altitude
etc.

Something to consider.

Mike
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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] flares - handheld vs. 12 gauge?
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:27:10 -0700
George,

After watching a flare demonstration in Wayne Horodowich's video on
recoveries and rescues, I realized that my handheld flares were not
sufficient by themselves. The sky blazer type flares had a lot of misfires
and burned fingers frequently so I ruled them out. IMHO, the best flares for
ease of use and dependability were the 12 gauge pistol flares. Granted the
25 gauge would be better, but they are too big and bulky for a kayak.

I bought a 12 gauge pistol and keep the gun, shells, handheld flares in a
dry bag that is either kept behind my seat or in my day hatch. Using a
"real" drybag has kept them in perfect condition and I never was much of a
fan of keeping pyrotechnics on my body.

Steve Holtzman
----- Original Message -----
From: "george ruta" <nckayak_at_capital.net>
To: "paddlewise" <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net>

> i'm considering replacing with
> the shotgun shell version thinking they may be more waterproof.
>
> does anyone have experience with them in a kayak setting? ideas on where
to
> store the rather bulky pistol?

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